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Post by lechuck on Feb 13, 2019 6:48:01 GMT -5
I know Shalooonsh played a Kadian not so long ago.
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Post by jcarter on Feb 13, 2019 9:10:37 GMT -5
Should just learn to ignore qwerty's posts or simply flame him. Evidence/facts/numbers/dozens of similar anecdotes mean absolutely nothing to him. this. qwerty is a builder on staff, his entire role here is to do damage control. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 9:38:26 GMT -5
My entire role here is to have fun. And pointing out seething unfounded hatred that some people here like to bask in is fun to me!
Regarding the topic at hand. The mention of Siamaca is a little unexpected. Unexpected enough, that I dont really know. I never paid attention to her and I'm traveling right now. I'll check later and I'll talk to you in PMs if necessary, SignifyingMonkey?
Regarding Loonsh playing a Kadian agent. Keep in mind that Loonsh have not been part of staff 2010-2017, or therebouts. He played that agent during that time. Once again, it is against the rules for a staffer to play a sponsored role. Simple as that.
Granted that rule came around during Adhira's ascendance. So if you're hell bent on remembering Bhag and similar and insist in living in the past, I cant really help you.
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Post by jcarter on Feb 13, 2019 10:32:23 GMT -5
My entire role here is to have fun. And pointing out seething unfounded hatred that some people here like to bask in is fun to me! textbook qwerty. dude calls criticism of a team of people that have harassed people IRL and molested underage Armers after furnishing them alcohol as 'unfounded hatred', roflmao and claims he's doing it for fun. i'm not sure if you could come up with a better example of bootlicker. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 11:11:59 GMT -5
Hehehe. I was wondering when you'll go into your 'harassing people IRL and molesting underage Armers' spiel. I mean, the 'victim' of this molesting talks less about it then you do. You seem to think that these words are magical 'superarguments' that prove you right, regardless of actual discussion, point, meaning, or sense.
Yes. Because some nerdy socially awkward woman who plays MUDs hit on another socially awkward person who plays MUDs, got rejected, and then spent who knows how long avenging her butthurt feelings via lame methods. Because of this, the creative work of 27+ years is anathema and anyone who participates in it, must cover their head in ash, register themselves as sex offenders, and ... castrate themselves?
You know. I have no proof that it happened, but I was the one who actually encouraged Kronibas to talk about it and I found his description of events believable. What he describes, it makes sense, and I've got some scant loose recollections of some aspects of it. The interesting thing is that the person this injustice "genuinely" happened to, is not using that fact to win his arguments. He's not leveraging it, he's not mentioning it to somehow show someone wrong. You do. You're using someone elses pain, in most petty way possible to add weight to your own nonsense.
Yes. Evidently. Some nerdy bunch of turds who spent enough time in a MUD to be briefly trusted with greater responsibilities, enjoyed the illusion of anonymity to make prank calls on some other dude. Because of that, clearly every participant of that MUD must cover their head in ash, break their phones, and ... perform seppuku.
What happened to those turds? I dont really know. I dont know who they are. If staff knew, then they clearly do not have those greater responsibilities that they used to. That does not even 'need' to be mentioned. If staff doesnt know who they are, well once again, what do you expect to happen? Decimation? I've asked you this question before, but you chose to ignore it and just cuss some more in some nonsensical manner. Decimation is a roman punishment of their legion, where every tenth legionnaire in the legion gets themselves beheaded.
Maybe now that I explained this to you, the question sticks in your head better. I dont know. I'm just not certain questions, arguments, points, sense, or reasons are what you're looking for. Arguments arent 'important' for you, it seems. You've just picked up on some 'loud' 'foul seeming' little minute tidbits of events and are just using them to prove your point? I dont get it, do you think this actually works? It sounds ridiculous. You sound like some dumbass who is debating pop culture with someone from Germany and is using it's Nazi past for an argument. It was amusing at first, but now I'm getting concerned. Do you genuinely think you're making good points here, Jcarter? Is that how you argue your points off line as well?
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Post by faroukel on Feb 13, 2019 11:32:37 GMT -5
haha, admins breaking admin-created rules about admin pcs? Jeee...who would'a thunk it.
Here's a little story, as it has to do with Arm.
SoI had a staffer, who I talk about a lot. She was instrumental in putting out rules about admin pcs. Only one pc at a time. No rpp (karma)races. No clan leads. Et cetera.
Said staffer was eventually kicked off staff, after a whole roster wipe and game ownership change, after it was discovered she not only played an rpp race that was a clan lead on her staff account, but also played an rpp race clan lead on her player account. (in addition to a heap of other abuses, such as created a broad swathe of rpp-restricted race crafts that exclusively benefited her pcs, loading materials for her crafters, etc, while the whole time being basically a stingy cunt that lead to SoI being what it is today.)
That staffer is an Arm head admin, by her own admission, to me, while we were both staffing SoI, and confirmed by a former ARM storyteller.
So while I actually dislike the amount of grief you get qwerty, put down the Kool-Aid, its not always sunny in Philadelphia.
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Post by Jeshin on Feb 13, 2019 11:32:45 GMT -5
Personally, I would read the room. Deflection doesn't really work when the people you are deflecting from are just going to be yeah but X. A far more sustainable defense would be those people are no longer on staff. Staff privately addressed the situation and never publicized it because it was no one elses business. So on so forth. You know things that could be true but require no proof and to the passing reader they would shrug and be like okay. Basically, the best defense of Armageddon staff is to continually disassociate the current staff from the past staff. Then when the current staff fucks up, disassociate from that one too.
The other best defense is to just go yeah staff is ethically questionable but they never said they were good people. They just keep the game running and people get to play on it. The ol' results are all that matter defense.
The whole molestation, harassment thing is moot too. While I believe those are probably true you have a far worse thing to defend. Staff are assholes over a game. The entire board exists because of staff being such big power tripping assholes that people felt compelled to row row fight the power. They're not likable. They're unreasonable. A few good apples might exist, I have liked one or two... but 5 people out of how many staffers being okay is pretty dismal.
Actual topic: Denying that staff played sponsored roles or had multiple accounts is silly when actual staffers have come out and indicated this is in fact true. There is no functional difference between a staffer animating an NPC and a staffer being a sponsored role except the player knows NPCs are staff. So why is it bad staff played sponsored roles? I don't care. They can animate a Black robe to do anything anyway so let them RP a Kadian I can stab. It's actually better for me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 11:34:25 GMT -5
I think you mentioned this before? And you said it was Adhira? Didnt we go through this already? I dont think Adhira and SoI have anything to do with each other.
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Post by faroukel on Feb 13, 2019 11:37:15 GMT -5
I said it was either Ananiah or Adhira, I didn't give much shit to determine which A was which. Rishte. Arm staffer. Toxic as fuck. Hyprocrite. And probably dyslexic (not that it matters, but that might help pinpoint for you).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 11:40:40 GMT -5
Because a Kadian can stab you back, Jeshin. Or more importantly, because that Kadian can kill you just for giggles, or whatever any other reason. While a Black Robe will have to use every excuse possible "not" to kill your PC, unless you either force him, or he'll fuck up somehow codedly (Which tends to happen). If a staffer ends up killing a PC during an animation, the sheer amount of explanation one needs to do is just way too draining and could result in consequences.
Nobody's denying that staffers can play multiple characters. They truly can. Not multiple accounts though, but multiple characters. You say some staffer her claimed they've played a sponsored role? Can you link me to that post please?
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Post by faroukel on Feb 13, 2019 11:43:34 GMT -5
If a staffer ends up killing a PC during an animation, the sheer amount of explanation one needs to do is just way too draining and could result in consequences. Like what? A pnote? A paragraph? Consequences? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 11:46:51 GMT -5
Well. Whoa.
Anaiah, was the staffer who came to these forums, broke the contract, etc. Actually an okey roleplayer. Wrote up a pc description tool once that staff used to create a bunch of NPCs later. She was never head admin. She never went above ST. She quit staff because other staffers took her seriously less and less. I dont know if she was Rishte. Genuinely no clue.
But, dude. I mean. Come on. If you're going to accuse someone so profoundly, actually know 'whom' you're accusing. You're saying that "she" admitted this and this was confirmed by an ST, but you dont even know "Who" was it. Is there anything anywhere that I can read that says more about it?
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Post by faroukel on Feb 13, 2019 11:49:37 GMT -5
I guess people thinking that a fucking mud's staff is some sort of institution beyond reproach, or should be held to that standard, is kinda funny.
Like, all this shit is par for the course. Like, the amount of legit staffers I've met through staffing on two RPI games, that got into it legit to HAVE FUN and basically MULTIPLAY with the whole board of a game's characters I can probably count on one hand. The amount who've done that, in addition to be SPECIAL and get themselves perks on two hands. The amount who who've done it to accumulate some sort of POWER or SOCIAL CURRENCY over their peers would be by far the greatest demographic.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 11:52:21 GMT -5
If a staffer ends up killing a PC during an animation, the sheer amount of explanation one needs to do is just way too draining and could result in consequences. Like what? A pnote? A paragraph? Consequences?
It's hard to say. Each case gets discussed. They can be forbidden from animating? They might get kicked off the clan and put into another that's languishing. That's how Loonsh lost AoD once. It's a management matter. The punishment has to be sour enough to discourage repeating it again, but without losing a person who is actually trying to add to the game, but fucked up. Unless of course, it clearly wasnt a fuckup, but an intentional dumbassery. Case by case matter. Complicated issue.
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Post by faroukel on Feb 13, 2019 11:53:27 GMT -5
I guess I could scroll through my old wiznet logs, pull up her cell phone number, give it to you, and you could call her and ask her yourself. I could take screenshots too, but given how mean everyone is to staff, you'd probably claim it digitally altered.
Or I could not give a fuck about what qwerty thinks or needs to know, and continue lambasting anyone I know to be a cunt without providing unrefutable proof, because that's easier and I don't give a fuck to go beyond saying what I say.
*shrugs*
(that said, I do admire your prove it to me attitude, but this isn't exactly worth the effort required to "prove to qwerty what everyone else already knows... and I, myself, have never played ARM more than like 20 minutes, total. But this is a small community, staff/players interchange between games, and the shit you cause will stink around you for a long time and people remember.) |
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