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Post by sirra on Mar 17, 2017 17:57:15 GMT -5
Nah, that's pretty much spot on. And even after Sanvean left, when I was on staff, nothing like this was happening and if it was, it would've been looked at with some pretty sharp horror at the way it not only conflicts with the documentation but also for the fact that the entire purpose of it was to harm a pc, and then throw in that it wasn't just one animation, it was two, as both the mate and the potential field aide were both talking about how Vennant was animated JUST to talk about how she was dressed and tell the mate that she was in the roasting pits fucking the potential field aide. At some point, staff (or at least the most influential clique among them) makes it so abundantly clear that you are unwanted (and always for some petty social reason, like being jealous of your PC and not from actual wrongdoing) that it becomes a Sisyphean struggle to remain engaged with the game. Sometimes they show it by shitting on your account notes or screwing with your karma, special apps or constantly harassing you about fiddly shit until it just makes the game unfun. Other times, staff makes their feelings known in more bizarre and invasive ways, like above. |
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Post by OT on Mar 17, 2017 22:46:38 GMT -5
Well, these days they just ban you.
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Post by jkarr on Mar 18, 2017 3:36:40 GMT -5
Well, these days they just ban you. Sometimes they show it by shitting on your account notes or screwing with your karma, special apps or constantly harassing you about fiddly shit until it just makes the game unfun. Other times, staff makes their feelings known in more bizarre and invasive wayshi kettle meet pot |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 3:48:26 GMT -5
They ban you if you raise objection to feeling as though you've been treated with spite, which manifests in the ways sirra mentioned. Holding grudges against players and allowing that shit to carry over into aspects of the game world or mastercraft items or whatever is unnecessary and only really serves to hurt the game as a whole.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 3:51:15 GMT -5
I feel that the already-bruised player-staff relationship suffered even more when the type of behavior that sirra mentioned became more common under Nyr, and maybe vestiges of that pattern still linger.
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Post by my2sids on Mar 19, 2017 20:05:55 GMT -5
BitterFlashback I wouldn't know the specifics of that since I'm not in a sponsored role. I'd say most things are turning around in 30 days or less, though. Staff are doing a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 8:29:37 GMT -5
Hell yeah they're doing a lot. Those shadow board posters aren't gonna witch hunt themselves, after all.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 11:01:01 GMT -5
Why do some people get banned for posting here and others don't?
Arbitrariness, cliques, and grudges.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Mar 20, 2017 11:19:38 GMT -5
BitterFlashback I wouldn't know the specifics of that since I'm not in a sponsored role. I'd say most things are turning around in 30 days or less, though. Staff are doing a lot. Ah, I should have been less specific. How much latitude do you have to take action without advance approval? Particularly where clan member/leadership PCs may be impacted who are not in the same clan as you? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 14:51:53 GMT -5
At the end of the day, what keeps me from trying to play this game again is a scenario similar to what happened with Anaiah:
A valid complaint is brought up - with a log demonstrating that, well, it wasn't exactly in line with how the game has historically stood in relation to sexism, a perfectly valid point - and, instead of acknowledging how maybe the animation was a little fucked... they ban her and close the discussion, citing her activity here as, in part, a justification.
Look, the point she brought up, while maybe not as big of a zinger in some people's eyes as Reiloth's situation (whatever that was), was a valid point. Yeah, she posted a log, but it's not like any world-shattering spoilers... or, really, much remotely interesting at all... was unleashed upon the playerbase.
Whatever people say, I believe some good has come of this board. I think that, overall, it has been cause for reflection on both the staff and player sides of the game. It hasn't been perfect, though, and has even been sloppy and nasty at times... but when I see nessalin posting and thinking aloud about online communities/societies, well, I realize that some people are at least *trying* to think about this and make sense of it. It's a little reassuring in a way.
Make no mistake about it, though; despite whatever changes and reflections this board may have prompted, only those who remained at a distance - or maybe new/newer players in general - will reap the benefits. As for the core posters here, well, the staff has their mind made up about us - regardless of any positive (though maybe difficultly gleaned) influence, and it's only under the veil of anonymity that most of us will be able to play again without feeling as though we're walking on eggshells.
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Post by my2sids on Mar 20, 2017 23:27:38 GMT -5
BitterFlashback I wouldn't know the specifics of that since I'm not in a sponsored role. I'd say most things are turning around in 30 days or less, though. Staff are doing a lot. Ah, I should have been less specific. How much latitude do you have to take action without advance approval? Particularly where clan member/leadership PCs may be impacted who are not in the same clan as you? Seems like staff are running with whatever the leaders want to pursue (within reason) at the moment. I mean, I haven't seen the crackpot requests. But the ones that are being supported are p good, run of the mill, us vs them type stuff. |
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Post by BitterFlashback on Mar 22, 2017 14:29:47 GMT -5
Ah, I should have been less specific. How much latitude do you have to take action without advance approval? Particularly where clan member/leadership PCs may be impacted who are not in the same clan as you? Seems like staff are running with whatever the leaders want to pursue (within reason) at the moment. I mean, I haven't seen the crackpot requests. But the ones that are being supported are p good, run of the mill, us vs them type stuff. That's definitely a turn for the better. Thanks for the feedback. |
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