jesantu
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Post by jesantu on Apr 8, 2016 9:02:24 GMT -5
What is the difference between storing and getting killed? Being a quitter or going down with a fight. Either way your 30 day pc is gone. Any of you remember a guy, years ago, I think he was Kadian, rebelled then pk'd a Kadian inside the Kadian compound in Tuluk. Was the most wanted player in the known for awhile. I don't know what happened to him. He had bounties in the north, south, people taking their man-stud heroes out looking for him. His name was like "mufasa" sending shivers up everyone's spine. Whoever played that was ready for a challenge. I seriously doubt he had imm approval for that pk! That was taking the game by the balls and running with it. You could list 100 other stories of pure awesomeness where some guy did this or that and how we must treat it as a template for how to do things. But sometimes it's enough to just kill a noble and be done with it. Not every action has to be some built up drama where the player really played it to the hilt and it was this hollywood oscar award winning omg extravaganza. But for most players it's never enough. No pkill cacn be justified (except that one kadian guy that everyone remembers and was a complete legend). No theft can be justified unless it was emoted to your satisfaction (which btw isn't possible) with x number of thinks and days and days of build up and sending in character requests and rubber stamping all the appropriate paperwork. No wonder the game suffers the way that it does if it has players with these kind of absurd expectation The game is the way that it is because players got what they asked for. Convoluted, unnecessarily complex nonsense because it's never enough. Whatever anyone does it's not the way it should be and there's always a story of how things should be done the right way. Not one player anymore can roll with the punches and just deal with it.
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Post by Prime Minister Sinister on Apr 8, 2016 9:05:21 GMT -5
Funny, years ago a Kadian gets killed-- sends ripples throughout the Known.
Present day, a NOBLE gets killed, and the Known just kinda shrugs and says "meh".
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jesantu
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Post by jesantu on Apr 8, 2016 9:11:50 GMT -5
Funny, years ago a Kadian gets killed-- sends ripples throughout the Known. Present day, a NOBLE gets killed, and the Known just kinda shrugs and says "meh". Yep! Until next year, which is how long it will take before anyone gets killed again at all. And then deadelf uses the story of how one-eye amos killed a noble as an example of truly awesome rp and that's how things should be done! It's never enough with the current host of players and any story is a good story as long as it's in the past and doesn't apply to the present actions. Your rp sucks, his rp sucks, everyones rp sucks....according to the actual enthusiasts and active players of the mud.
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deadelf
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Post by deadelf on Apr 8, 2016 10:03:10 GMT -5
I get that you're incredibly keen on painting me a bad player or something, but I quit playing the game, and the game has no balls with which to run. That's why I quit.
You are misinterpreting my intention for posting. It is for the generic reader.
There's no judgment here. I hope you fully enjoy whatever you move on to. I wish you and everyone who reads the gdb or this board the most success in life. When the game loses a player, all I feel is a little sadness. Days gone by I guess. If it comes across as hateful or judgmental then that is my own poor ability to communicate. I do not feel these emotions.
I chose the words "poorly written, pathetic" to mimic and contrast with the original tone. It was meant to describe everyone's perception of their own story, not yours personally.
If you (generic reader) are unhappy with your story, you (generic reader) have the power to change it. That's all I'm trying to say.
And, Grumble for president, 2016!
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punished ppurg
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Post by punished ppurg on Apr 8, 2016 10:57:28 GMT -5
You have the power to change it by not wasting time in such a stagnant environment under such a poor staff team. That's the best solution.
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Post by astrangeshadow on Apr 8, 2016 13:03:02 GMT -5
lol backstabbing in the dark. *slow clap*
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tcbz
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Post by tcbz on Apr 8, 2016 13:25:14 GMT -5
This entire thread is hilarious.
"One-Eyed Amos" the shitty, twink player is upset that staff ignored him and his plots so he stores.
Did you ever stop and think why you got no support? Look at how you handled this assassination of a Borsail noble? You stalked him, hit backstab, stole his ring without missing a beat, and hid again. Then stored and came here when no one gave a shit about your grand accomplishment.
I'm so happy you're gone, you have no idea. What a champagne problem to have, losing THIS GUY from the game. LOL.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2016 13:30:22 GMT -5
You stalked him, hit backstab, stole his ring without missing a beat, and hid again. It's what Léon would have done. Edit: The first 22 seconds of this video.
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OT
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Post by OT on Apr 8, 2016 13:49:26 GMT -5
This entire thread is hilarious. "One-Eyed Amos" the shitty, twink player is upset that staff ignored him and his plots so he stores. Did you ever stop and think why you got no support? Look at how you handled this assassination of a Borsail noble? You stalked him, hit backstab, stole his ring without missing a beat, and hid again. Then stored and came here when no one gave a shit about your grand accomplishment. I'm so happy you're gone, you have no idea. What a champagne problem to have, losing THIS GUY from the game. LOL. Ah, it's Mr. "the game is fantastic, staff is perfect, the shadowboarders are wrong 100% of the time in every single thing they say and do, the game cannot ever be criticized." One of those people whose opinion immediately self-destructs by being so pants-on-head retarded that nobody can take it seriously. Malken, perhaps? It's always amusing when a discussion gets to the point where you start to get the players who wouldn't know what a plot looks like if it hit them in the face, having never been involved in one that mattered, so they think logging in to craft means there's stuff going on in the game and that assassinating someone without first revealing yourself to recite some exposition and strike an evil pose is cheating. I guarantee this guy has never PKed anyone because the notion makes him feel uneasy, and has never played a strong character because he's a lightweight roleplayer who doesn't get involved in anything noteworthy. Today's Armageddon caters to you, which is hardly something to be proud of. Meanwhile, one by one, every player who has the ability to make something happen has left the game. What's left is an RPI with no story, no plots, and players whose opinions are so hilariously irrational that it's nearly understandable why staff has no interest in the playerbase anymore.
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Post by astrangeshadow on Apr 8, 2016 13:54:37 GMT -5
What? You don't agree with me? Fuck you, you circle jerking, staff loving jerk. The game's stupid rarara! I quit! Also, you suck because you don't agree with me.
Love, newtwink
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punished ppurg
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Post by punished ppurg on Apr 8, 2016 14:01:53 GMT -5
You're going to criticize how he did it? Remember, code = roleplay to this staff. It happened, and it has as much value as an overly-emoted flourish, and much more value than a "cast teleport dude" whiran kill.
You can't have it both ways, especially against the staff standing policy that code = roleplay and the community addendum that emotes != roleplay.
How do you know he was a twink? Because he's got good stats? Because he used the code to enforce the RP notion that he was a great assassin? How about you show us one of your logs backstabbing a noble, and let's judge your (I must imagine) sublime technique vs. this effort. Go on ahead.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2016 14:09:47 GMT -5
It'd have been interesting to kill his bodyguard and been like "You're next if you don't comply." But first he has to seem reasonable enough that he'd go along with with any threats (considering they are reasonable demands) instead of going the other direction and getting ten bodyguards and bribing a squad of blue robes to punish the villains/perpetrators (these are the kinds of people you have to kill).
I'd be curious what will happen because the noble is gone, like if it'd generate any spin-off plots or clear the way to allow for something bigger or better to happen.
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tcbz
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Post by tcbz on Apr 8, 2016 14:10:18 GMT -5
It's always amusing when a discussion gets to the point where you start to get the players who wouldn't know what a plot looks like if it hit them in the face, having never been involved in one that mattered, so they think logging in to craft means there's stuff going on in the game and that assassinating someone without first revealing yourself to recite some exposition and strike an evil pose is cheating. I guarantee this guy has never PKed anyone because the notion makes him feel uneasy, and has never played a strong character because he's a lightweight roleplayer who doesn't get involved in anything noteworthy.
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OT
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Post by OT on Apr 8, 2016 14:11:08 GMT -5
You're going to criticize how he did it? Remember, code = roleplay to this staff. It happened, and it has as much value as an overly-emoted flourish, and much more value than a "cast teleport dude" whiran kill. You can't have it both ways, especially against the staff standing policy that code = roleplay and the community addendum that emotes != roleplay. How do you know he was a twink? Because he's got good stats? Because he used the code to enforce the RP notion that he was a great assassin? How about you show us one of your logs backstabbing a noble, and let's judge your (I must imagine) sublime technique vs. this effort. Go on ahead. I mentioned on an earlier page that I suspect Valorisk actually wanted to get assassinated. There's a reason for that. That was actually the second attempt to kill him. A RL day earlier, I made the first attempt but the NPC succeeded its guard check and I had to flee. The next day, Valorisk went the exact same route as last time, and timed it so that he stepped into the same room (the one with the side street on Arena Road) precisely as dusk turned to night. He basically set up his own assassination. I'm pretty sure he was happy to get rid if his character without having to be seen storing a noble with enemies. I have no qualms backstabbing in the dark, but it wasn't really the plan. That's just how things turned out. I was gonna backstab him in that room, no matter the conditions. There was even another PC with him. Besides, my character had master blind fighting and had carefully planned the act, to the point where I wished up beforehand to inform staff that I was about to make the attempt. But of course, nothing is ever fair if a shadowboarder did it. It's obvious that it doesn't matter how it was done, the details are entirely irrelevant, these unknown accounts would have cropped up to attack it and intentionally misinterpret everything to suit their narrative no matter what had actually happened. I never take it too seriously, they're just here to feed their own delusion.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2016 14:16:14 GMT -5
That was actually the second attempt to kill him. A RL day earlier, I made the first attempt but the NPC succeeded its guard check and I had to flee. The next day, Valorisk went the exact same route as last time, and timed it so that he stepped into the same room (the one with the side street on Arena Road) precisely as dusk turned to night. He basically set up his own assassination. I'm pretty sure he was happy to get rid if his character without having to be seen storing a noble with enemies. Huh. That actually validates criticism for not emoting things out then - it wouldn't have been likely that he would have emoted the scene out instead of hightailing it and not being seen in public for a year.
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