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Post by Prime Minister Sinister on Apr 22, 2016 17:37:55 GMT -5
A few people seem to be using this as an opportunity to pass out pitchforks and torches so they can stab and burn the dead horse some more.
Starting to get really old really fast.
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Post by punished ppurg on Apr 22, 2016 17:42:31 GMT -5
We've got to let everyone know how loyal we are, Prime Minister Sinister ! What with the game being down and all, the staff don't have an excuse to ignore the GDB. This is our ONLY opportunity to let them know that we are thoughtless, mindless supporters out for blood against whoever would seek to criticize our beloved staff team; that way, we'll finally get our last karma! I HATE that darn shadowboard, and I'm glad everyone there doesn't play anymore! The game can wither and die with only me, the token active staff members, and the rest of the GDB personalities left in the entire world interested in this game, and I wouldn't be any less happy since THOSE MEAN PEOPLE aren't playing with us!
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Post by jcarter on Apr 22, 2016 17:58:14 GMT -5
holy shit these people are mentally ill.
this is what the gdb actually believes. if you just want to know what's up with arm instead of spending 20 days of your life grinding up skills on a character who can be killed in three hits you are a lazy and entitled piece of shit. you are literally the worst than hitler!!! does anyone else notice how fast the normally left-leaning GDB population turns to telling you that you need to pull yourself up by your bootstraps?
lmao. besides being unable to tell a t from a k, this guy has no fucking clue about the hack. he has no idea if his roommate from 20 years ago that he's still mad at even knows barka or communicates with him. but somehow, somewhere, his roommate is responsible for this.
also lol that he continues to make up these grandoise statements about ~~~freely given~~~ information that us uncouth fellows hypocritically prattle on about. dude no one here gives two shits about how the information came about. get over yourself, maybe forgive your roommate for drinking your last mountain dew twenty years ago, and pls stop making things up.
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Post by jcarter on Apr 22, 2016 19:06:09 GMT -5
@rgs
are you really this thick
i mean, ignoring how last time you had a manic posting spree you couldn't shut the fuck up in the x-d thread about how 'unfair' it was for us to post here when he supposedly couldn't defend himself (even though he was free to register an account here) and now your hypocritical ass is pulling the same shit on the GDB....
sorry brah but your pathetic attempt at having a 'gotcha' moment falls short. arm has numerous social network groups that make it easy as hell to figure out who someone is based off of first name alone. second, wtf is having it "both ways"? i had no part in releasing staff info and it got cleaned up before i even realized what was going on. please educate me more tho on how i'm trying to have my cake and eat it too when i've protected people's RL information for the last several years, i'm all ears.
it never ceases to amaze me how hard GDB jimmies get rustled over people having the audacity to congregate and post on a private forum. the level of mental gymnastics ya'll go through to get some sense of moral superiority is incredible.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 19:12:06 GMT -5
How is posting someones first name Doxxing? How is it more so doxxing than posting someones complete names, phone-numbers and/or location? When I say you can't have it both ways I mean you can't call one thing doxxing while simultaneously claiming this event wasn't doxxing. They're both not doxxing, but if one has ever been closer, this it.
I always admire your ability to bring any topic involving me back to me being a hypocrite. Keep it classy.
edit: Also the Metekillot thing is hilarious. Do you think he was trying to be racist? I'd love to see the post in question that got him banned, because it totally sounds like you banned him for being upset that people were calling staff "faggots." His claim isn't that he was using a racist remark ironically, it's that he was using it as an example.
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Post by punished ppurg on Apr 22, 2016 19:36:43 GMT -5
You've touched on something that I'm keen on addressing. It's the intent of the situation, which counts in law. Intent is the difference between murder and negligent homicide / manslaughter, and both have very different punishments.
In barka's case, the argument has been made that he was legitimately ignorant of the staff information contained in his leak; when it was pointed out to him, he immediately took it down. I'd bet the overwhelming majority of people up in arms over it have no idea what was in that leak first-hand, but were instead fed a biased description with the intent of getting them incensed. Did he do it? Yes, but he didn't mean to and he took quick action to remove the information minutes after he was notified. Dealing with a bank of data that size, and that filled with worthless information, I can understand why he made such a mistake.
However, in this scenario, we have this guy obviously dropping the power-word, and playing ignorant to his accused handle. How small is the social circle of Armageddon? Incredibly. With just a first name, you could pick out who he's talking about if you had access or contacts. I'm sure that somewhere buried under a decade of bureaucracy, there's a staff note about two accounts sharing IP addresses -- since he's come out and mentioned it, that can link barka to his old account, possibly other handles, and then his personal information. We're relying on the good-will of the staff members to not creep out his information, which hasn't been a good strategy considering how schizophrenic most of them act and conduct themselves.
In the realm of intent, where barka didn't intend, sleepless did. That's the crux of the issue, here, and that's why Nergal did perhaps one of the only sensible things he's ever done as a moderator and removed the power-word.
But I know that your type on the GDB don't forgive, and they certainly never forget a damn thing. In light of this, intent is more convenient to be ignored.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 19:45:32 GMT -5
So you're saying his -intent- was to doxx? I can't really comment on that without seeing the original post. But his post on the GDB really doesn't come off that way. And if he intended to doxx, why wouldn't he just drop all of the info. First and last name, for instance. I feel like if there was bad intent, it was was to shame his ex-friend who disappointed him(even though it's not even clear this is where the info came from).
What's a power word?
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Post by jcarter on Apr 22, 2016 19:46:49 GMT -5
How is posting someones first name Doxxing? do you have difficulty reading? re-read the post, i explained it to you. because none of that content was hosted or posted here. it was hosted off-site and available for all of twenty minutes. all of two people saw it, pointed it out, and it got redacted immediately. it was hardly fitting the classification of trying to name and shame someone that this takes on. also afaik no complete names were posted -- do you have any evidence that this happened because i didn't see any 'complete names'. considering that the staff of arm literally did not give two shits about trying to redress the situation, it's safe to say that no doxxing happened. this guy is mad at his twenty year old roommate and trying to name and shame him on multiple forums. if you don't see how this is apples and oranges then lol. glad you're not even trying to deny it at this point. lol. of course he was "trying". you don't go around deliberately throwing around slurs without "trying". he didn't accidentally post it. it's adorable that he wants to stick to his guns and pretend it was done as some sort of moral outrage. i mean seriously it's rich that a guy purposely registers an account, does nothing but non-stop shitpost and attack people here for all of three weeks, then when he gets banned for trying to turn his edginess level up to 11 does it under the guise of he was trying to show us how mean we were to staff. if you buy that then i got a bridge to sell you bud.
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Post by punished ppurg on Apr 22, 2016 19:53:11 GMT -5
A power word is slang for a name. I call it that because it's got power in online discussions when we're dealing with handles. If you were to say "Paul's a <insert justified metekillot racist slur here>" instead of "That ppurg guy is <insert another justified metekillot racist slur here>", I would be more offended because you're calling me out on a name basis.
This is exactly what this sleepless guy is trying to do; stir up shit, and call this guy out who he admits might not even be the same guy who accidentally hosted freely-given, non-contractually-secret information for 15 minutes before removing it after he recognized it was there. It's shameful, and all the puppy pictures in the world don't make up for it.
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Post by Prime Minister Sinister on Apr 22, 2016 19:59:02 GMT -5
@rgs Ah, fuck me, I read your post wrong.
But still.
After the absolute outrage generated by the last close call with doxxing, I'd be a little gunshy about toeing that line too.
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Post by delerak on Apr 22, 2016 20:00:37 GMT -5
Delerak is a power word...
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Post by punished ppurg on Apr 22, 2016 20:04:38 GMT -5
But nobody uses it because "we're on a first-name basis " do they? Besides, you've basically given out your information, and anyone who wants to send you a pizza will have to guess the port of one of the US Navy's ships. Not the case with Barka, and not the case with this roommate that sleepless is intentionally shaming.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 20:17:40 GMT -5
Jcarter,
You seriously think Arm is a small enough circle that giving someones first name out is going to lead to some sort of targeted malice towards this person, and that was the reason he did it? I'll have to agree to disagree, but you've got more info than me. I haven't seen his first post that supposedly got him banned. His post on the GDB however... Pretty clear he's not trying to target Barka personally to get others to attack his real identity. Most of the damn post is him apologizing because he thinks he himself is the reason for the leak(though obviously hammed up a bit).
I mean, if his intent was to doxx, wouldn't he have gone to the GDB first? He only went there after you banned him.
As for the metekillot thing... If I said "Don't call staff Faggots please, that's like calling Jews kikes." I'm trying to be racist? That's how Met is saying he said it.
edit: Forgot to quote. Have no idea how to link names.
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Post by jcarter on Apr 22, 2016 20:37:18 GMT -5
Jcarter, You seriously think Arm is a small enough circle that giving someones first name out is going to lead to some sort of targeted malice towards this person, let me flip the tables -- would you be ok with me dropping the first names of staff members? do you think the playerbase would be? probably not. when first names of staff members and ten year old phone numbers were accessible for all of 10 mintues the sky was falling but now that's not the case? i don't really care what his intent was. people have linked facebooks here before and i've deleted posts on them before even if they weren't malicious. the fact of the matter is i'm not interested in babysitting every fruitloop that signs up for the forums with an axe to grind. that's why metekillot's racist "i was just trying to teach them a lesson" ass got banned, and that's why this guy got banned. if you sign up to shamelessly stir shit up -- and by stir shit up just posting nonstop attacks or trying to namedrop someone -- then go figure you're gonna get banned. lmao. because that's how metekillot posts. that's how he posted on his account here, right? just a polite disagreement of 'wow guys this isn't cool, it's like saying this'. i love how you just eat all this up. no. dude was striving to be redditor-levels of edgy and got banned for being a racist twat. go look through his previous posts here where he just talked shit to people. do you really think that he just was saying 'hey guys i do not think this is appropriate talk'? of course he's going to sit there and pretend his racist ass got banned because 'ugh those jcarter guys are big meanies' and you idiots eat it up because it fits into your narrative so nicely.
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Post by jkarr on Apr 22, 2016 20:53:05 GMT -5
plus @rgs nergal confirmed what jcarter was already saying by deleting the first name reference in response to privacy/doxxing concerns from other players get a clue u fucking moron
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