my2sids
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Post by my2sids on Apr 29, 2015 17:34:37 GMT -5
I think the boards has a lot to offer and also has a lot that staff dislikes. However, it's kinda shitty when threads just reduce to circle jerks of hating on staff/hating on whoever might have an opinion other than "omg fuck nyr".
That seems pretty childish to me.
Some of you don't need to keep posting your terrible life story, either. Legitimate concerns or disagreements (which the OP posted) should be discussed. The name calling and ridiculous tangents are not needed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 17:36:13 GMT -5
Collectively, I do not have much faith in the staff of the game as a whole. And yes, I believe that inviting your buddies to be admins instead of choosing people who have earned it is a valid concern in both ArmageddonMUD and the world at large.
In Mississippi, we refer to this as the "Good Ole Boy" system, and it is a microcosm of problems in social groups as a whole.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 17:39:34 GMT -5
I think the boards has a lot to offer and also has a lot that staff dislikes. However, it's kinda shitty when threads just reduce to circle jerks of hating on staff/hating on whoever might have an opinion other than "omg fuck nyr". That seems pretty childish to me. Some of you don't need to keep posting your terrible life story, either. Legitimate concerns or disagreements (which the OP posted) should be discussed. The name calling and ridiculous tangents are not needed. I think your whole schtick when you come here is childish compared to what it could be as well. |
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Post by jcarter on Apr 29, 2015 17:41:46 GMT -5
I think the boards has a lot to offer and also has a lot that staff dislikes. However, it's kinda shitty when threads just reduce to circle jerks of hating on staff/hating on whoever might have an opinion other than "omg fuck nyr". That seems pretty childish to me. Some of you don't need to keep posting your terrible life story, either. Legitimate concerns or disagreements (which the OP posted) should be discussed. The name calling and ridiculous tangents are not needed. i agree. however, it's not your place to police the boards. you seem to have this habit of barging into threads and telling people what they can or can't talk about. if people want to post their 'terrible life story', they're free to. if you don't like it, then skip the post and move on with your life. |
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malkeninthemiddle
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Post by malkeninthemiddle on Apr 29, 2015 17:44:28 GMT -5
Collectively, I do not have much faith in the staff of the game as a whole. And yes, I believe that inviting your buddies to be admins instead of choosing people who have earned it is a valid concern in both ArmageddonMUD and the world at large. In Mississippi, we refer to this as the "Good Ole Boy" system, and it is a microcosm of problems in social groups as a whole. Maybe you just need to let go of the past, then, and try to find the positive in what they (Staff) are trying to achieve player-relationship wise. Again, if you wish to play again, nothing you might write here or "fight for" will achieve anything in your playing ability (again, if that's what you wish). Staff all seem pretty happy with the things are going right now and players as well (again, I will refer you to the constant 70+ players a night there have been on Armageddon - I know it's just cheap data, but it sorta shows that the game (or the Staff - at least in the players' view) isn't doing as terrible as some might say. If you're not wanting to play again and you have absolutely no trust in Staff to change for the better, then I'm not really sure what you're "fighting" for. So you don't want to play anymore and you don't trust Staff in general either, I don't really know what to tell you.. |
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Jeshin
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Post by Jeshin on Apr 29, 2015 17:55:48 GMT -5
Quick tangent
I have all the respect in the world for Jcarter's approach to this forum. It'd have been easy to start this up as a side board to discuss things and eventually go crazy with censorship against people who insulted him or people who keep posting topics or individual posts that make the site look bad. To my knowledge he's moderated like 3 times. The cesspool, the racism, and one other thing I forget.
Now maybe he's just apathetic and he does it that way because he doesn't want the work load. He's said that a couple of times. But still the corner stone of any relevant discussion is the firm knowledge that anything you say will be left untouched and unmoderated.
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my2sids
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Post by my2sids on Apr 29, 2015 17:56:26 GMT -5
I think the boards has a lot to offer and also has a lot that staff dislikes. However, it's kinda shitty when threads just reduce to circle jerks of hating on staff/hating on whoever might have an opinion other than "omg fuck nyr". That seems pretty childish to me. Some of you don't need to keep posting your terrible life story, either. Legitimate concerns or disagreements (which the OP posted) should be discussed. The name calling and ridiculous tangents are not needed. i agree. however, it's not your place to police the boards. you seem to have this habit of barging into threads and telling people what they can or can't talk about. if people want to post their 'terrible life story', they're free to. if you don't like it, then skip the post and move on with your life. k |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 18:01:37 GMT -5
Malken, you are probably right that it is good to let go of the past and try to worry about the present, but the two are often inextricably linked.
Anyway, you can hope for the best and still not really trust people in regard to certain things. I genuinely hope that some people are working to make that game a better thing and all that, but yeah, I don't necessarily have to have trust or faith because there is a vague impression in my mind that some effort is being put forth to do things differently.
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malkeninthemiddle
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Post by malkeninthemiddle on Apr 29, 2015 18:03:18 GMT -5
Quick tangent I have all the respect in the world for Jcarter's approach to this forum. It'd have been easy to start this up as a side board to discuss things and eventually go crazy with censorship against people who insulted him or people who keep posting topics or individual posts that make the site look bad. To my knowledge he's moderated like 3 times. The cesspool, the racism, and one other thing I forget. Now maybe he's just apathetic and he does it that way because he doesn't want the work load. He's said that a couple of times. But still the corner stone of any relevant discussion is the firm knowledge that anything you say will be left untouched and unmoderated. And it shows a lot.. I actually expect to be flung shit each time I post an opinion that I know will be contrary to many, and I don't mind it at all anymore, I'll even fight back, even though I honestly think that it's pretty retarded, but to be honest, there are some posters here that if they talked to Staff the way they talk to me (or the rest of the forum users here - and no, kronibas isn't actually one of them), or tried to BS me as a Staff (which I'm not) the way they try to BS us with their "Why I've been banned from Armageddon - the true untold story" I can understand why they've been banned. I think it's the anonymity atop the anonymity that contribute a lot to this. But the forum -often- looks like a sanitarium that buries any good issues that might have been discussed underneath a whole pile of nonsense. |
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Jeshin
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Post by Jeshin on Apr 29, 2015 18:09:35 GMT -5
The cost of freedom of speech is that anyone can say anything. The value of freedom of speech is that no one can stop you from saying anything. You take the good with the bad and if you're interested in the opinions of a few on this board I think there is a follow feature? I don't use it personally, but I've seen others profiles have them marked as following this or that person.
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Post by jcarter on Apr 29, 2015 18:14:24 GMT -5
But the forum -often- looks like a sanitarium that buries any good issues that might have been discussed underneath a whole pile of nonsense. eh, compared to the level of snark, bitchiness, and condescension that toes the line of "i'm insulting and baiting you but not enough to get moderated" that happens at the GDB i don't think we're doing too shabby. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 18:21:47 GMT -5
Yes, at least here, when someone acts like a fuckface, someone can act like a fuckface back and not get banned.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 18:22:17 GMT -5
There no freedom of speech on the internet, not even on this website. You're free to say things the owners of the website aren't going to censor you for, that's pretty much the extent of your "freedom". This goes for every website to varying degrees of severity, with a few out there that truly let anything go.
For instance JCarter isn't even free to break the rules of whoever made this message-board system. He'd have to find a new forum provide, or host one of his own. But if someone was using one of their board as a illegal drug/porn trafficking exchange, I'm sure they'd close it down. (I say this not realy sure what sort of agreement JCarter has to sign to use these boards.)
Edit: Not that this post is entirely on topic, but Jeshin was mentioning free speech.
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delerak
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"When you want to fool the world, tell the truth." - Otto Von Bismarck
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Post by delerak on Apr 29, 2015 18:22:54 GMT -5
What exactly is that malkeninthemiddle? Considering they've completely ignored this board for how long now? 2 years I think since I started posting here. Just curious how they are doing any relationship building or interpersonal communication when they ignore a place like this. It's so machiavellian (sp?), that it breeds dissent. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 18:24:53 GMT -5
There is a difference in freedom of speech when it comes to breaking the law and when it comes to disagreeing with some internet admin who is known to power trip and act like the king clown of jerkoffs, to be sure.
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