jkarr
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Post by jkarr on Mar 5, 2015 21:55:25 GMT -5
Bad form. I think characters made with some kind of 'I'm going to make life as hard as possible on group X' in mind are detrimental to the game in general they are no more detrimental to the game than a blank slate (vendetta-wise) background pc that developed that same vendetta and mindset thru ingame activity. as with all things, if u dont have a way to back up ur chars actions thru an ic background (which will be noticed if u have a consistent theme of vengeance towards the same group char after char) and ig events then u r liable to get questioned about it it completely circumvents any attempt at RP from the group in question. no more than any other persistent ig conflict does, whether it involves a sustained interclan conflict or multiple random pcs continuously coming in and starting shit. but if they r lazy and cant be bothered to even craft(lol) a basis in their backgrounds and chars feels/thinks/actions to justify each of their chars repeatedly targeting the same ppl or group then they deserve all the shit that comes down from on high
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my2sids
Displaced Tuluki
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Post by my2sids on Mar 5, 2015 23:40:06 GMT -5
Sure, play an opposite sex pc a few times. But constant girl PCs? Get a life. ftfy. same diff, different ooc motivator (please dont share we dont wanna hear it) Please use your brain and come up with something vaguely applicable or original next time you'd like to try and troll. Thanks.
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jkarr
GDB Superstar
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Post by jkarr on Mar 6, 2015 0:04:22 GMT -5
ftfy. same diff, different ooc motivator (please dont share we dont wanna hear it) Please use your brain and come up with something vaguely applicable or original next time you'd like to try and troll. Thanks. hey genius the onus isnt on me to creative or original by citing shit that u do for fuck knows why i dont even have to make that shit up lol
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my2sids
Displaced Tuluki
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Post by my2sids on Mar 6, 2015 0:12:45 GMT -5
I guess I shouldn't expect a lot out of you altogether, yeah.
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malkeninthemiddle
Displaced Tuluki
Black woman lawyer on a television morning show
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Post by malkeninthemiddle on Mar 6, 2015 0:27:47 GMT -5
I find it bad form but I doubt I'm going to convince anyone here of what is bad form or not.
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jkarr
GDB Superstar
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Post by jkarr on Mar 6, 2015 0:28:06 GMT -5
I guess I shouldn't expect a lot out of you altogether, yeah. ur not gonna keep any pupils with that attitude teach
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Post by lulz on Mar 6, 2015 0:53:55 GMT -5
I find it bad form but I doubt I'm going to convince anyone here of what is bad form or not. Oh for fucks sake, malken.
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Post by sirra on Mar 6, 2015 3:22:48 GMT -5
I know mostly "revenge characters" are against the rules (but pedophilia isn't). But why? Are they usually lame? Is is considered a "Revenge character" if that character just so "happens" to kill a bunch of folks a prior character knows? Does a successful "pk" mean that player isn't allow to "pk" you back or its considered a revenge character? Are revenge characters only characters who sole purpose is to get even with another player? Is there really an issue with "Revenge Characters" or is it some GDB bullshit boogie man thing? PLEASE SHARE YOUR STORIES AND ANECDOTES! They are extremely lame and I've been the victim of them. I'm not going to recount the story here again in fullest detail, but I've shared it on this board already. TLDR: A player whose character I killed made an alt, wormed their way into my clan, and conspiring with and encouraged by another player whose character I'd killed recently for molesting recruits (Grom), killed my own character (Nadhir) in the most lamest and retarded of ways, completely ignoring a host of IC factors. Not limited to having no IC motive, playing a half-giant that lied straight up and even while closely interrogated under the effects of spice, did not RP it. Killing my character while he was asleep on the ground, in front of a salarr family member and in front of various Salarri NPCs, then speedwalking out the gates. He got away with it, partly, because my2sids, who was playing the Salarri family member that it happened in front of, was more or less overwhelmed by circumstances, being new to the world. Abuzer then did a bang up job of disposing of Nadhir's corpse, after all his pockets were rifled through for magic rangz. And all of this happened late at night (like 3 AM), before the people who Nadhir actually trusted were even aware of it, like Mopatis, Flora, fightclub's ranger, and a couple other guys found out. Three of them suicided/stored within 24 hours. We had a short-run group app of mutants, but my heart wasn't in it, and I needed a break from Arm. I received confirmation from players, later on, who had OOC proof of their collaboration and reasons, and I made an official complaint to Adhira. Nothing came of it. Although, Anaiah told me that the incident caused them to watch the players in question more closely, and they lost karma later over a different incident. In conclusion, revenge PCs can suck a big fat cock, and the retarded cowards who indulge in them and their OOC cliques are a big reason why I lost interest in Armageddon. In Nadhir's case, my own naivete did me in, as I honestly did not expect any kind of OOC vendetta, and I thought someone with supposedly like karma 6 was a straight shooter. I thought one of the half-giants was a newbie, and I was doing my best to train him. The people that tried to warn me in oblique ways, I did not listen to. It was only afterwards that I began talking to people OOCly on IM, and finding out the real reasons behind various fuckery. And that was another step towards growing disenchanted with arm.
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Post by lulz on Mar 6, 2015 3:30:35 GMT -5
They did do something, sirra. Crashloft was banned IIRC bruh.
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Post by sirra on Mar 6, 2015 3:32:40 GMT -5
They did do something, sirra. Crashloft was banned IIRC bruh. From what I was told (by Anaiah), that happened after he did something else, later on. But there were a few people involved. Off the top of my head, one was Crashloft's friend, the horned half-giant who did the killing (whose delf alt I killed), and a Tuluki noblewoman who was suspiciously patronizing the newb horned half-giant, who got him to kill Nadhir (for whatever reason), was also crash's friend, and who I also evidently fucked over in some way, on a previous alt of her's. She might've been the mindbender he killed. It's been almost 6 years since I got the lowdown from someone who was a friend of the mindbender's player. Crashloft did a lot of shady shit before he ever got much more than a slap on the wrist. After Nadhir killed Grom, he posted a rant on the GDB about how Nadhir used his magic rangz or something to do it, and told everyone Nadhir had rings. I've had many people tell me, either over IM, PM back then and now, about Grom telling them of Nadhir's supposed hoard of rings (he had one!). None of that got him banned, as far as I know. It just got him on watch, until he stepped afoul of someone staff actually cared about, and then got banned. I can only imagine how disappointed Abuzer was, that my2sids had already taken the one agility ring before he got to the body. And for the record, I liked Abuzer. Everyone else in Salarr, excepting the half-giants, were basically good people and good RPers. We were the horrible stilt-lizard fisting twinks. If someone was going to loot my corpse for rangz and dump me in a ditch before even the mother of Nadhir's bastard child could log on, I would want it to be him. I was actually at peace with Nadhir's death when it happened. I had killed so many people, that I knew it was bound to happen eventually. It was only when people sought me out OOCly and told me who the players were behind the characters, and the OOC reasons why they did it, that it upset me.
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Post by lulz on Mar 6, 2015 4:11:03 GMT -5
Dude, he went apeshit on the gdb and claimed Nadhir had several magick rings despite living in Tuluk (I don't know whether Nadhir was Tuluki-born and I don't have a dog in that fight) AFTER you killed his old as dirt and buff as fuck half-giant.
His tirade was abruptly deleted and he was summarily banned. I say this because this is what Crashloft said to me himself.
Now, staff COULD have let him back but after Grom died he kind of disappeared from AIM and we haven't spoken much since.
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Post by lyse on Mar 6, 2015 6:59:23 GMT -5
And this folks is why I'm not a big fan of karma (in the game). It's given out so arbitrarily, yet people that have it do the most abusive shit.
On another note, as someone that alternates between cities on every character; some characters are hard to get away from.
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Patuk
Shartist
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Post by Patuk on Mar 6, 2015 7:10:00 GMT -5
Maybe you ought to make a revenge character
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punished ppurg
GDB Superstar
Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
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Post by punished ppurg on Mar 6, 2015 7:38:26 GMT -5
When your character dies, you shouldn't have a dog in the race anymore. Players who set out to go, "X killed me. I'm going to kill X" and warping their ARPEs to a pinnacle of extremism to reach that goal aren't doing anybody any good.
I talked to my friend IRL about Armageddon and MUDs in general, and he told me "This isn't even getting mad at pixels on a screen . . . This is getting mad at a binary transmission of 0s and 1s." I couldn't agree more with him.
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Post by topkekm8s on Mar 6, 2015 8:01:35 GMT -5
i wish i can make someone as butthurt as sirra one day
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