malkeninthemiddle
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Post by malkeninthemiddle on Feb 27, 2015 22:54:09 GMT -5
If it turns out to be illegal to simulate sexual acts through text with minors, then more signage would definitely be called for. What you describe would not currently be illegal under the law. It would be deemed "inappropriate for minors" at best but since you were playing from what I assume was your home, then no one could be blamed for it. If you did it from school, then your school would be held responsible (but not in an 'illegal' way) for not filtering out that sort of access, but again, it would fall under the CIPA, the Communication Decency Act and the Child Online Protection Act, which are all PROPOSALS and GUIDELINES for schools, libraries and such. You wouldn't be able to successfully sue someone over that YET (maybe it would SLOWLY change if a lawyer would actually want to waste their time on that but most law agencies are currently overwhelmed with cases that involves physical abuse). Source - I'm a black woman lawyer on a morning television show Because it's Friday night and I have no friends, let me refer to my law books that my 16 cats are currently sleeping on and find you what Justice John Paul Stevens said regarding the Reno v American Civil Liberties Union, it might be of interest to you - "We are persuaded that the CDA lacks the precision that the First Amendment requires when a statute regulates the content of speech. In order to deny minors access to potentially harmful speech, the CDA effectively suppresses a large amount of speech that adults have a constitutional right to receive and to address to one another. That burden on adult speech is unacceptable if less restrictive alternatives would be at least as effective in achieving the legitimate purpose that the statute was enacted to serve. (...) It is true that we have repeatedly recognized the governmental interest in protecting children from harmful materials. But that interest does not justify an unnecessarily broad suppression of speech addressed to adults. As we have explained, the Government may not "reduc[e] the adult population...to...only what is fit for children." So, basically, ArmageddonMud is protected by the First Amendment IF YOU ARE WILLING TO TAKE THIS INSANE CASE TO COURT. It wouldn't even make it that far. But again, it doesn't mean it's right for adults to virtually sex up youngins' on the internets, it's just.. Legal'ish. |
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Post by Procrastination on Feb 27, 2015 23:09:17 GMT -5
Count me impressed. I originally said color me impressed, but realized I didn't wanna change the thread from 'pedophiles' to 'racism'.
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Post by jkarr on Feb 27, 2015 23:16:03 GMT -5
Count me impressed. I originally said color me impressed, but realized I didn't wanna change the thread from 'pedophiles' to 'racism'. quit 'kidding' urself |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 23:57:41 GMT -5
Kronibas your autism hurts No, you using the way my brain works as an insult to someone hurts. I am autistic. Autism is not an insult, it's a difference in the way your brain works. Does Bill Gates' autism hurt? Dan Akroyd's? Darryl Hannah's? Bitch please, don't use autism to insult someone just because you're too lazy to describe whatever halfassed insult you're trying to misconstrue as being autism. |
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Post by Kronibas 2.0 on Feb 28, 2015 0:00:31 GMT -5
Kronibas your autism hurts No, you using the way my brain works as an insult to someone hurts. I am autistic. Autism is not an insult, it's a difference in the way your brain works. Does Bill Gates' autism hurt? Dan Akroyd's? Darryl Hannah's? Bitch please, don't use autism to insult someone just because you're too lazy to describe whatever halfassed insult you're trying to misconstrue as being autism. Aspergers is a super power. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 0:02:25 GMT -5
Hmmm, okay, according to you dudes, it's the minor's fault if they allow themselves to be sexually exploited in such a way. And uhh, I very seriously doubt the law says that it's OKAY... Sorry. I think you're wrong that it's legal to simulate sexual acts in any way with a minor, even if they were "asking for it." While I wouldn't in any way say that it's okay, I would say this: The very setup and nature of RPI mudding discourages OOC knowledge sharing to the point that unless you tell someone beforehand that you're underage, if the majority of those who play are not, and you do not say otherwise, it is going to be assumed that you're of age. That said, I don't really think that the 18 age of consent is sensible to start with, as I started having and participating in regular and consensual sexual acts at 14 and there's about a half a dozen people who would've been labelled 'criminal' for things they did with me that I not only set up but actively coerced them to participate in. There's a major difference between exploitation and consensual sexual activity, but given the medium, and the context in which the medium exists, I think that if there IS anything that can be done, it's something you'd have to talk to someone who knows obscure legalese on (aka your mom). |
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Post by topkekm8s on Feb 28, 2015 0:03:53 GMT -5
NORMIES PLEASE LEAVE
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 0:06:15 GMT -5
or malkeninthemiddle apparently. <3 I probably should've read the whole thread before commenting on that.
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Post by legendary on Feb 28, 2015 0:06:58 GMT -5
You feel you were exploited by adults by choosing to engage in optional sexual relations role-play in a consent-required role-play game, wherein you could disentangle yourself from the situation as easily as pushing the power button on your computer.
Is that about right?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 0:09:58 GMT -5
I guess it goes back to the question of whether or not a young person is capable of making those decisions soundly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 0:11:08 GMT -5
When I was 14, I would say I was, but that's just me. I think the age any individual is ready for such and able to make their own informed decision on the matter is highly variable and subject to the individual.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 0:13:03 GMT -5
I think I was too which is why I don't hold a grudge. But I would just imagine how, in some situations, especially with young players who have difficulty differentiating IC/OOC, it could be a nasty thing. And I'm sure there have been situations like that...
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Post by Jeshin on Feb 28, 2015 0:14:03 GMT -5
This discussion both cheapens the entire board with its goal and proves to anyone who would claim we're all just circlejerk agreeing with each other that we don't support all negative opinions of ARM.
Simplified Version - This thread is an example of throwing accusations against the wall until something sticks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 0:18:14 GMT -5
I respectfully disagree and say that this has been a worthwhile reflection of a fucked up but seldom spoken of aspect of Armageddon MUD.
They make a hobby of critiquing players, so I think it's fine to ppint out the absurdity of their policies, like ignoring predators while simultaneously "cracking down" on craft characters, which is dumb because most RPTs are focused on combat characters.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 0:20:21 GMT -5
I think I was too which is why I don't hold a grudge. But I would just imagine how, in some situations, especially with young players who have difficulty differentiating IC/OOC, it could be a nasty thing. And I'm sure there have been situations like that... While I do agree on your point about lack of IC/OOC separation and it possibly causing problems on that front, I think the greater problem would be with older players who do not have that same boundary, which is not an insignificant number, than younger ones. Why? They have the resources, knowledge, and wherewithal to possibly pose a larger threat to the other party than a younger player who had those issues. Anyone with those particular issues, regardless of age, is going to have problems when interacting with those that do. I've quit RPE muds over people who couldn't separate who my character was from who I am and thought I was interested in them because my pc was interested in theirs, started calling me a whore, etc. It was gross. |
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