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Post by legendary on Nov 8, 2014 19:13:49 GMT -5
The entire Byn experience was rooted in impossible odds.
It was about joining up with mixed bag of newbie scum and clawing your way towards Trooper, equipping yourself with gear stripped still-warm from your friend who died in front of you and getting paid not but a surly 'fuck the hell off' from your Sergeant before he leaves, very likely to sleep with your mother just because you wanted to go shopping in Luirs, you ungrateful piece of Runner shit.
When you hit Trooper, you made it there with two, maybe three of dozen people who joined when you did and there is a damn good chance that at least one of them hates your guts. If you survived long enough as a Trooper to make Sergeant, you are a bona fide survivor and everyone you meet is going to know it. They wanted to hire you, they wanted to recruit you, they wanted to fuck you and they wanted to kill you because you probably slept with their 'mate', whatever the hell that is.
You don't even remember that though because you drink yourself into a near coma trying to forget the horrible things you've seen and done for a fistful of coins and bragging rights. What's that, ex-gladiator turned dandy boy Borsail Aide? You killed a Gaj in the virtual Arena once? Well, aren't you just precious.
And when Runner Smug the obvious assassin is giving you know-it-all attitude? You could be reasonable and patient, but fuck him. Fuck his mother. In fact, go fuck his mother on the floor of the latrines and make him clean up afterwards because you didn't survive Byn life this long to take lip from newbie scum.
Was there some skill twinking and assorted eyerolling? There sure was, but since you had impossible odds to deal with, they rarely lasted long enough to make an impression.
The biggest point of failure was when the world and the jobs became too weak in the sauce to maintain a respectable 85% mortality rate.
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Nov 8, 2014 20:08:59 GMT -5
Post by BitterFlashback on Nov 8, 2014 20:08:59 GMT -5
Welcome back to Armageddon
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You've connected to Legendary.
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You enter the world.
The Cheater's Shadow Board [NW]
>skill languages
sirihish (master) motherfucking (master)
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Nov 8, 2014 20:28:56 GMT -5
Post by grumble on Nov 8, 2014 20:28:56 GMT -5
dat wuz grate post legendry. clap clpa calp.
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Nov 8, 2014 20:36:46 GMT -5
Post by topkekm8s on Nov 8, 2014 20:36:46 GMT -5
i upboated it xDD
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Nov 9, 2014 12:24:43 GMT -5
Post by sirra on Nov 9, 2014 12:24:43 GMT -5
The guy really hates aides. I really do! |
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Nov 9, 2014 12:29:45 GMT -5
Post by sirra on Nov 9, 2014 12:29:45 GMT -5
It worked out great. How's labeling clans which cater to newbies as 'twinkfests' and 'how not to RP' doing for you? Not everyone enjoys playing the game on their back, getting reamed by some nooblar, as you're well acquainted with. You know what's the difference between the Byn and your elitism? It actually attracts and keeps players until they realize how the other clans are operated. Everyone in the game has a right to know how to defend themselves, and to build a decent warrior, without getting smoke blown up their ass just to keep them on the bottom rung. Skilling up is the least important thing in the game. But abject failure and confusion on how to get to the point where you can survive a gith is what stops a lot of players from advancing. I played Arm for twelve years, and the parts of it involving the Byn were some of the best. All that barrel holding, and soup eating...That's just a phase most guys go through, after being killed about a dozen times. They want to become the killer rather than the killee. It's usually a much slower route to karma, admittedly, than rolling up a gypsy, bard or house aide and fucking your way through Tuluk. That was the surefire way to karma. 19 posts in and you already nailed me. I'm sorry. I'm sorry...Did you just refer to our respective post counts as some kind of smug allusion to your superiority? I just want to be absolutely certain as to how fucktarded you really are. |
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Nov 9, 2014 16:16:25 GMT -5
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Post by lyse on Nov 9, 2014 16:16:25 GMT -5
19 posts in and you already nailed me. I'm sorry. I'm sorry...Did you just refer to our respective post counts as some kind of smug allusion to your superiority? I just want to be absolutely certain as to how fucktarded you really are. I don't even know where to begin with you. So I'm not even gonna. You truly are one of rougegunslinger's autists. But by all means rage on. |
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Nov 10, 2014 16:11:44 GMT -5
Post by BitterFlashback on Nov 10, 2014 16:11:44 GMT -5
sirra: you forgot slaves. That was also a fast-track to karma (for a lot of the same reasons as the others lsted). before the staff decided they were too much work to support or whatever the excuse was.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2014 10:06:54 GMT -5
It used to be that the game at least had the Atrium which was the polar opposite, wholly noncombat and very focused on teaching roleplay, but that's long gone. Literally every new player is now shoved towards the Byn Aaand they've re-opened the Atrium. It's amusing to see how uncannily their changes follow the discussions on this board. |
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Dec 13, 2014 0:45:50 GMT -5
Post by sirra on Dec 13, 2014 0:45:50 GMT -5
It used to be that the game at least had the Atrium which was the polar opposite, wholly noncombat and very focused on teaching roleplay, but that's long gone. Literally every new player is now shoved towards the Byn Aaand they've re-opened the Atrium. It's amusing to see how uncannily their changes follow the discussions on this board. The Atrium taught its own share of bad habits. Not to mention, it was always utterly obnoxious as the primary destination for secret mages and psionicists. You could not throw a rock around the atrium at one point without hitting a mindbender. But the game's probably better with it around than without. Although, the game would be even far better off without Tuluk. |
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Dec 13, 2014 1:05:10 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2014 1:05:10 GMT -5
It's good because it's a huge hook for getting into the game's deeper social/political side, which has been pretty much non-existent in recent years. Without the Atrium, there's no natural direction for becoming an aide and whatever else that place can lead to, and no place where it feels natural for nobles to interact with commoners outside their own estates.
Currently, nobles and templars have to just hire people off the streets, which is a ridiculous concept and doesn't work as the odds of getting someone who is both capable of playing the part and willing to stick with the role is near zero. As a result, hardly anybody actually makes characters with that in mind, so nobody really gets funneled into that aspect of the game. With the Atrium you get people who have deliberately signed up for the role, as well as a much more justifiable source of servants for the employers. It's the cog that makes this entire portion of the game work, from all angles.
People don't seem to realize it, and I'm not saying it's the one and only reason, but when they closed down the Atrium, Allanak politics died out pretty much immediately. Nobles don't have very much reason to interact directly with commoners and vice versa, so servants were the link between the two. The Atrium was not only a place to pick your aides, it was also a place to go and be a noble in front of commoners without it having that artificial and needy feeling that you get when a noble goes tavern-sitting and calls people to their table just to avoid looking like a loser, despite having absolutely no reason to talk to them.
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Dec 13, 2014 3:53:59 GMT -5
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Post by sirra on Dec 13, 2014 3:53:59 GMT -5
It's good because it's a huge hook for getting into the game's deeper social/political side, which has been pretty much non-existent in recent years. Without the Atrium, there's no natural direction for becoming an aide and whatever else that place can lead to, and no place where it feels natural for nobles to interact with commoners outside their own estates. Currently, nobles and templars have to just hire people off the streets, which is a ridiculous concept and doesn't work as the odds of getting someone who is both capable of playing the part and willing to stick with the role is near zero. As a result, hardly anybody actually makes characters with that in mind, so nobody really gets funneled into that aspect of the game. With the Atrium you get people who have deliberately signed up for the role, as well as a much more justifiable source of servants for the employers. It's the cog that makes this entire portion of the game work, from all angles. People don't seem to realize it, and I'm not saying it's the one and only reason, but when they closed down the Atrium, Allanak politics died out pretty much immediately. Nobles don't have very much reason to interact directly with commoners and vice versa, so servants were the link between the two. The Atrium was not only a place to pick your aides, it was also a place to go and be a noble in front of commoners without it having that artificial and needy feeling that you get when a noble goes tavern-sitting and calls people to their table just to avoid looking like a loser, despite having absolutely no reason to talk to them.You're obviously right, and I agree wholeheartedly. But it's worth reflecting that one of the reasons the Atrium went out of style, was because of how much of a cliche some aspects of it had become. It's just amusing to consider that for all the Byn attracts a certain element, the Atrium attracted its own sketchy and ultimately much more sinister element. It did seem to oscillate between meat market and secret gicker hangout. But ultimately, you are correct, in that shutting it down harmed that side of the game in much the same way that trying to shut down or limit the T'zai Byn harms the other side. Although, I don't know if the Byn closing doors was staff motivated, or just a douchey couple sergeants in charge. Now and then the T'zai Byn has had sergeants which consider it like some kind of personal club and less a merc outfit. Also, the bolded part about needy nobles is hilariously true. |
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Dec 13, 2014 8:47:56 GMT -5
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Post by Patuk on Dec 13, 2014 8:47:56 GMT -5
If I were a pre-atrium noble, I'd have made picking an aide some kind of contest. This includes Oash/Borsail. Oh, want to be my Aide? This man could not pay his debts; collar, beat, strip down and burn him, Aide. Ah, you want to serve? Drink this jug of viv water while eating ruk kalans and watching a krathi lightshow while you're 100 cords in the air without freaking out. Whoever is tuff enough gets the jerb.
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Dec 13, 2014 10:58:19 GMT -5
Post by Jeshin on Dec 13, 2014 10:58:19 GMT -5
Honestly the fact that the Atrium doesn't hire House Oash to check its trainees for gickerness seems a bit far fetched. In fact one could make the case that ALL southron clans should contract Oash to periodically check their public staff for gickerness to avoid death, bodily injury, and future embarassment.
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Dec 13, 2014 14:21:46 GMT -5
Post by sirra on Dec 13, 2014 14:21:46 GMT -5
If I were a pre-atrium noble, I'd have made picking an aide some kind of contest. This includes Oash/Borsail. Oh, want to be my Aide? This man could not pay his debts; collar, beat, strip down and burn him, Aide. Ah, you want to serve? Drink this jug of viv water while eating ruk kalans and watching a krathi lightshow while you're 100 cords in the air without freaking out. Whoever is tuff enough gets the jerb. I once had a 3 day dwarf warrior and thought I was hot shit...probably my first character that wasn't instant gith bait. I pledged my axe to a noble, and he said he'd hire me if I could go out to the wastes and bring him back a tarantula fang. So I saddled up...and died quite soon thereafter. He had to have known he was sending a newb to his death. But I still find it amusing. I managed to contact his mind before I died that I was bleeding out, and he psi'd back something like, 'Sorry to hear that' and dissolved link. He was Tor, and I dimly recall wanting to join Tor because they were 'teh badass'. |
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