Byn

Exactly Delerak, and my character Harar was told ICly that it happened/was happening - by Koman - and then that was confirmed when I made a new character and was asking about getting into the Byn. 

Whoever thinks it was Koman's decision wasn't there when he left the Byn after getting told by higher up NPCs to change his hiring game in huge ways. Meanwhile, they were preventing us from making a splinter group by shitting all over warehouse availability, a mastercraft scouting cloak, and just really discouraging anything except playing in the Byn under more strict terms. 

There were even IC posts in Nak AND Tuluk about it.

And NO, it was not IC. It was OOC, from the staff, and designed to keep so many players out of the Byn - because, lol, if there's too many players in the Byn, that's why Tuluk is fucked and has zero people playing there, right guise? It's the BYN's fault... Not Tuluk being the victim of Nyr's best efforts to flog it to death.


Sorry, no, it was never the Byn's fault that places like Tuluk were dried up on PCs. That was all Nyr and Laeris.

I hate it when my minions rebel against me and go independent... but what can you do?

So basically, the staff taking a player driven clan success and trying to manipulate it and steer its direction by shitting on it half a dozen different kinds of ways.


Listen up staff, you really didn't have much at all to do with the success of that Byn group, so you should have just left it the fuck alone..... Because eventually it was the staff fucking with it that killed it, and they will continue to do it with future player-driven successes, just because they can't bear to step back and leave things the fuck alone.

In case anyone's confused, Sharak started out as a bog standard celf warrior. I would know...I went through the Byn as a Runner with him. He was my dwarf's buddy. I eventually retired that character, and came back as him like a year later, to hear all those crazy Sharak stories, and my mind was blown. (This was back before I ever talked to anyone online, except my official arm 'mentor'). There was a lot of great Byn around that time. Tarq. Fathi. Many others.

Sharak was also one of the best RPers I've ever encountered on arm, so I'm not surprised that some staffer took a liking to him and got him started on some incredibly convoluted plot. IIRC, Sharak was one of his first characters too.

On another note, no clan has had more consistently great periods than the T'zai Byn, and it's always been a little interesting how some staffers seem to be offended by that clan's existence or popularity.

On an even another note, given my years of experience in the Byn, I still empathize with disallowing celves. One of my favorite Bynners of all time was a celf, and I still feel that way. They're a huge pain in the fucking ass to sherpa around the wastes, resting every five minutes. If someone couldn't ride a war beetle without falling off it, my guy could literally not be buggered to care about them.

I think that IC efforts toward not hiring CElves are way more respectable than OOC efforts.

As far as the OOC aspect goes, I would be more down with OOCly keeping CElves out of the Byn of there were other ways for them to form up, but the OOC distinctions that staff have between "familes," "tribes," and "clans" is ridiculous and seemingly designed to prevent groups that aren't imm-sanctioned from easily/readily forming up.

I am in complete agreement that it is usually a headache to bring along CElves into desert trips.

There are boons to it, too, like in training... And that metagame aspect probably does translate into IC stuff, as in, here, it's good to have elves around because you'll be fighting them, so, it is good to train against fighting fast-moving opponents. I mean, I can see both the IC and OOC problems/merits with letting CElf characters play.

Anyway, at the end of the day, I wish it were an IC decision that was made when it comes to deciding to let elves into a unit. I don't think this was the case when the policy was decided upon a little before this time last year, though.

Again, like we touched on yesterday or the day before, I am glad they fixed the direction that they looked to be headed in - and I hope that their initial reactions were not knee jerk reactions because one or more people were in the Byn when they started "clamping down" around this time last year. It sure seems like it, though.

At any rate, I haven't played in the Byn in a RL year, but when I was, I was playing a lot... And I saw firsthand what happened as a result of the staff's tender ministrations. Again, though, it seemed schizophrenic because they seemed to be both supporting it and detracting from it at the same time, and this probably stems from a lack of unity in vision, more than anything.