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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2014 0:35:58 GMT -5
Getting the first two karma is not too difficult. Just play a character, not a skill sheet. Dont die too early, dont do stupid risks, give staff time to get to know your character and get involved into what he/she is doing. And play in a clan. Getting karma as an indie is much much more complicated, since indie staff is spread pretty thin, you have to be extra impressive to be noticed for 'good' things.
After two karma, people get access to magickers. Magickers are exceptionally easy to abuse. 2 rl days and you have the ability to kill someone who is a rl year old. Easier to abuse, more power, more temptation to abuse the power. More desire to play nothing 'but' magickers. Less patience with mundane guild strength progression and therefore greater temptation to twink extra hard. That's a pretty solid barrier for people to progress beyond that. The last 6-8 karma, you will probably not be able to get anything playing short lived, but awesome sparks. You'll have to play consistently interesting shakers who last a long while.
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Post by lulz on Jun 30, 2014 1:22:40 GMT -5
Bebop went on to marry shalooonsh, and then they split, and shalooonsh still has 8 karma. bebop got docked 2 and got negative acct notes. I'm confused. Are you saying they split in real life or in the game? Edited to add: It doesn't matter really. With regard to why Malifaxis wasn't docked and Bebop was: Context: It's what's for dinner.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2014 2:36:26 GMT -5
She also got killed over it. Her character, at least, and his did not for that, afaik. Her character died in the game, but that was around the time they started talking, anyhow, and she spoke with me about it four months ahead of time, and I laid out like exactly what happened in some detail as being what would happen. Their divorce was finalized this week.
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Post by Patuk on Jun 30, 2014 3:39:46 GMT -5
It cannot be stated enough: your character needs flaws. Half the positive account notes I have are for playing dumb humans, stubborn and annoying dwarves.. I think staff just tend to be happy about people taking the wilful decision to be weak in general.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2014 9:01:33 GMT -5
I know that this isn't supposed to be the "how to get karma" thread, but I've found that one of the best ways to get karma is through sending frequent character reports, even if you are unclanned. If you do this, staff will know that you care about the RP side of things and your character arc. It's the best way to remind them, in a positive way, that you exist.
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Post by lyse on Jun 30, 2014 12:45:46 GMT -5
I know that this isn't supposed to be the "how to get karma" thread, but I've found that one of the best ways to get karma is through sending frequent character reports, even if you are unclanned. If you do this, staff will know that you care about the RP side of things and your character arc. It's the best way to remind them, in a positive way, that you exist. No, it's good, why jump through so many hoops just to play the damned game? A lot of people are sure to wonder how you get karma. So the next thing to talk about is how to send a character report and what to include in it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2014 16:18:44 GMT -5
Well, just to put the information out there for new players, you send character repots through the request tool at armageddon.org/request/new.php and make sure it is CC'd to any clans you are involved in, or Unclanned. I am not going to go into what I personally put in a report bullet-by-bullet, because I don't want to identify myself to staff (and it's really up to you how you format it, anyway,) but I will give some vague tips. Note that my account is not saturated with karma or anything but I do think there is a connection between the karma that I have received and periods during which I was sending in regular character reports. Now for the aforementioned vague tips: This is a character report, not a bio entry, so keeping it brief and easy to read is good. Maybe a few sentences on your character and what they are thinking and feeling about various things/people/places/events. You can also put in OOC notes and thoughts about why you're doing something and where you hope this character will go. Really, you can include any kind of trivial bullshit that tickles your fancy, but make sure you also include things that staff will find important, like if you're involved in a major mission or are planning to fuck another character up in some way. I think that the important thing is to show the staff that you are actively engaged with your character's RP and with the game and are actually thinking about how various things will affect your PC. It also displays that you are willing to be transparent with them. So if a staff member "catches" your character doing something they think is twinky or against the docs, you have the opportunity to lay it out in the open and explain yourself, possibly getting you out of trouble. Or not, if you get stuck with a staff member with a stick up their ass. But even then, I would do it anyway. It really is a positive thing. I'm not saying I agree with the current system of karma by any means, but the way it works, you kind of have to get noticed. So if you're not involved in major plots that the staff are actively watching, aren't a sponsored role or a high-karma character, and don't have a great deal of influence, you could be glossed over. So you're either going to have to ask for a karma (some people swear by this, but I'm a little wary of it, myself) or you're going to have to do something else to get noticed. Regular character reports are a good way to do that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2014 20:07:09 GMT -5
It will guarantee it will be a couple months before you get a karma, but one of the best things you can do to earn the first couple karma is making sure to think/feel/emote with some level of regularity, demonstrating you know the dynamics of the world and the social order in different cities, etc. Best of luck, whichever you choose. I very much appreciate your willingness to talk about this, but I dont buy it. Every single player I have spoken with outside game gains karma until they irritate an imm. Then either never grow again, or get docked downwards. The level I see petty disapproval taken to is stunning. Reeling, to borrow a phrase.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2014 20:15:59 GMT -5
That's not really true. Many players slip through the cracks and just never get noticed, let alone karma. If there are bad account notes, though... well, you know you've been noticed. And I'm not saying that it's good.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2014 20:19:47 GMT -5
You don't necessarily earn "cool" points unless you're on the receiving end of kudos. My advice: Stay with your account. Join a house like Kurac as a youngish man or woman (18-22) and rise through the ranks. Don't worry about stats, worry about relationships with others. Allow your character to make mistakes. Be a bit of a fuck up (it's realistic, and fun). Most importantly, allow your character to grow into a three dimensional man or woman, complete with strengths and faults. Hell, you could even do a SWOT analysis to map out some character basics before letting the pc's experiences shape him/her. Good luck, and have fun. Again, I don't buy it. Play socially. Play in a clan. Don't anger imms. Kudos, reports, flawed characters, these things do not matter.
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Post by lulz on Jun 30, 2014 21:14:10 GMT -5
That's not really true. Many players slip through the cracks and just never get noticed, let alone karma. If there are bad account notes, though... well, you know you've been noticed. And I'm not saying that it's good. I'd wager it is actually true, to some degree. I forget the woman's name, but I played her account for her over the course of a single character to get her karma. I did everything right but slipped up ONCE and slept with my hawk on my shoulder. Cuusardo left a rather nasty note on the pnotes (apparently this female player wasn't well liked because she was well known for just mudsexxing and not roleplaying). After the character died I did end up getting a karma point for her, but the note remained. *shrug*
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2014 21:22:51 GMT -5
Again, I don't buy it. Play socially. Play in a clan. Don't anger imms. Kudos, reports, flawed characters, these things do not matter. You could be right. In my experience character reports can be a leg up if the staff forgot about you. But it probably depends on the imm you have. Some of them probably don't care.
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Post by jcarter on Jun 30, 2014 21:44:01 GMT -5
That's not really true. Many players slip through the cracks and just never get noticed, let alone karma. If there are bad account notes, though... well, you know you've been noticed. And I'm not saying that it's good. I'd wager it is actually true, to some degree. I forget the woman's name, but I played her account for her over the course of a single character to get her karma. I did everything right but slipped up ONCE and slept with my hawk on my shoulder. Cuusardo left a rather nasty note on the pnotes (apparently this female player wasn't well liked because she was well known for just mudsexxing and not roleplaying). After the character died I did end up getting a karma point for her, but the note remained. *shrug* well if you can't remember to take off a piece of equipment before you sleep how the fuck are they supposed to know you can play a d-elf or summon water without abusing the code and totally somehow ruining the game?
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Post by jkarr on Jun 30, 2014 21:47:27 GMT -5
i would laugh hard if some stone mage got docked for burrowing into the sand with a hawk on her shoulder
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Post by delerak on Jul 1, 2014 2:42:54 GMT -5
I wish they would scrap karma so bad. Actually I don't give a shit because I don't actively play but the karma system is seriously one of the most elitist gaming systems I think I've ever seen anywhere ever.
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