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Post by lyse on Oct 14, 2014 9:21:37 GMT -5
What restrictions are put on nobles? Cause it seems they aren't allowed to leave the city unless they have huge escorts of players. You can't really train, so hunting, fighting (which are big parts of the game really) are out. You are just a pure social character. Tuluk does have a very low pop, which makes it hard to do anything socially then. You aren't allowed to do anything illegal unless you go through a Templar (you can strike out without contracts, but isn't Qoriya still about to just kill you still?). Tuluki nobles seem to get bored and store, there is a problem there. What do people think needs to be done to fix this?Playing a noble is pretty tough in either city (but particularly Tuluk because of all the social rules), I can see why it can lead to more karma roles. You get shut down and told "No" alot and baby sitting your minions (depending on who they are) can only lead to more frustration. To me it's a symptom of the restrictions and the vagueness of the game itself. If you're very, very creative and have ALOT of time on your hands you might be able to pull something creative off with staff help. But I feel like they should be given more latitude as far as what they're able to do or attempt. I know some of you are thinking "They are given more latitude than the average player", but it needs to be more latitude or more guidance from staff as far as what is allowable or possible. Personally, my player reports tend to be very verbose and while I get great feedback, it's often very vague as to what I can actually pursue. Nobles are definite plot makers, but they should have a little more freedom as far as plots go. |
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Post by drunkendwarf on Oct 14, 2014 11:47:45 GMT -5
I was part of the assault on that kryl's nest, among other scouting/skirmish expeditions to locate the nest. Saw the man lose his eye. It was a hell of a thing, and a lot of it was being led by Raleris. Extremely tense forays out into the grey and each time you never knew if your character was coming back. A lot of fun.
What ultimately happened to him, anyway? When I stored Dargan, he was still around.
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Post by drunkendwarf on Oct 14, 2014 11:53:33 GMT -5
Also Raleris if you're out there, it would be awesome to talk to you after all those years RP'ing with you as Dargan. Hit me up here or bergywarble@AIM.
Since we were never technically in the same clan, I'm not even sure what his GDB handle is/was.
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Post by Kronibas 2.0 on Oct 14, 2014 12:12:49 GMT -5
Think it has been established that Cutthroat played Raleris.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2014 12:34:47 GMT -5
Nobility storage isn't some mystery. The fact is that the political scene of Arm has always been a very weak facade with nothing underneath. Coupled with the fact that the actual things you can do are extremely few, and you very rarely have opportunities to use your skills for anything meaningful, it's just inevitable. The main difference between Tuluk and Allanak has been that in 'nak your expected manners of interaction with commoners is a lot more interesting whereas in Tuluk it's such a watered-down joke bereft of any real friction or conflict. Allanaki nobles can at least be massive douchebags/perverts/tyrants and spice scenes up that way.
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Post by topkekm8s on Oct 14, 2014 13:58:04 GMT -5
fucking allanak
glorious fucking allanak
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Post by punished ppurg on Oct 14, 2014 15:30:50 GMT -5
Allanaki nobles can at least spice scenes up that way. Quite literally, to the point of being predictable. Oh, of course the noble has spice on him. |
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Post by mood on Oct 15, 2014 14:36:27 GMT -5
when i played a noble it took me months to get spice despite inquiring with several people, several of them kuraci. fuck you kuraci, sell me spice, i don't care if it's illegal.
eventually i found a rad whiran.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 17:23:20 GMT -5
when i played a noble it took me months to get spice despite inquiring with several people, several of them kuraci. fuck you kuraci, sell me spice, i don't care if it's illegal. eventually i found a rad whiran. My favorite of my rogue whirans was FW's aide/assistant with his kuraci agent, and I'd run spice into the rinth to deliver for him once she'd been friends with as well as working with him long enough to come out about it to him. That part was so much damn fun. :/ That was before the tribe and tablelands leg of her life. which was objectively 'successful', but pretty lonely, more often than not. |
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Post by someguy on Mar 31, 2015 19:20:05 GMT -5
Throwing this out there. It's a lot better now. Leaps and bounds.
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Post by herpderp on Mar 31, 2015 23:49:40 GMT -5
Throwing this out there. It's a lot better now. Leaps and bounds. In what ways? Expound, describe, let us in on what you can let us in on. |
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Post by mood on Apr 1, 2015 13:08:27 GMT -5
no nyr?
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Post by Patuk on Apr 1, 2015 15:57:55 GMT -5
Meh. Purehearted universally kind paragons of everything still abound.
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Post by tedium on Apr 2, 2015 0:07:20 GMT -5
Throwing this out there. It's a lot better now. Leaps and bounds. In what ways? Expound, describe, let us in on what you can let us in on. I'd like to know this too. Last time I spoke to someone about Arm they said Tuluk was full of newbies, staffpets, and the occasional well-intentioned optimist who thinks they can turn Tuluk around. That creates a player-base problem on top of the thematic problems that Tuluk struggles with. Even if the PBase has turned around, Tuluk is still easymode on training wheels where people just skillgrind, mudsex, and not RP the caste system. Other than the aforementioned twinking and mudsex, I don't see what purpose Tuluk serves in the game except to provide a place for people who don't like Arm's grimdark brutal survivalist theme. But if things are turning around I'd love to be proven wrong. If Staff finally figured out what Tuluk is supposed to be, that would be great. Side rant: Why did they make Tuluk a caste-based society, then make the castes identical to feudal society? FFS that defeats the purpose of a caste system. |
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Post by Jeshin on Apr 2, 2015 0:26:17 GMT -5
I honestly believe that Tuluk is a failed implementation of a tribal state. I think if Tuluk had kept its tribal roots (if you read the docs they were just tribes merged together under Muk Utep) and the caste system was based on the relative 'power' of your tribe then it'd have something going on.
Example: Lets say Tenneshi, Winrothol, and Kassigarth are all tribes not Houses. The elders/leaders of the tribes are what we know as Chosen but the tribe contains commoners too. The Chosen/Elders have complete control over their tribes members and their actions dictate the power/respect of the tribe in Tuluki society which informs the commoners what their place is compared to the other tribes.
EDIT - Untribed people would be the "untouchables" the forsaken. The shit that isn't even good enough to be slaves. There's your criminal underworld composed of people with no choice but to live "outside the system"
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