a derail started by a banned poster chastising banned players

I assume you're refering to me with that VPN remark. First off, fuck you. Second, I barely visit this forum. I haven't broken a single rule, I mostly ignore the skill sheets, the more game breaking things, the powerleveling guides etc. The main reason I came here was to find crafting recipes, and the last time I checked, they're almost impossible to find out in game due to this super sekrit elitist cult where they refuse to tell outsiders how to craft a fucking chest. I got banned, simply for being here. Which is bullshit, THAT is why I sneak back in.

I really wasn't going to respond to this troll but I just can't help but make fools out of people who blindly follow GDB Logic 101.


If I could I'd try to press charges but it's unlikely. I would probably figure out why they are that pissed off and fix the problem instead of banning which would only make them a permanent enemy of the game.





It's not their game. If it was they wouldn't let players login to it.



Funny you say this. It's kind of like somebody volunteering to join the military and then constantly saying how they serve their country, and want recognition for it. You know we have a word for these people; they are douchebags. T

he fruits of their "labor"? Come on dude. The original creators of Arm were pretty smart guys, Morgenes is a pretty smart guy but the rest of the staff don't impress me in the least with their "labor" as you so aptly have called it. I'm not saying they don't work hard and spend a lot of time on it but it's still pointless. A guy flipping burgers can be the hardest worker there but your job is still menial tasks that takes zero actual skill to perform.

Do you know why shit takes forever on Arm? Because the staff have inundated themselves with what we call "busy" work. I don't care how much time they put into the game, most of what they do requires very little actual knowledge or skill. Guess why the code takes a long time, because programming isn't easy and the only competent coder for the mud is Morgenes, possibly Tenebrius but who knows, they don't exactly post their BS in Computer Science on the forums.





Watch my video on perm bans. Kind of obvious you haven't. I address a lot of my concerns about using IP bans, or MAC bans or anything of the sort and I have a story to go along with it. Perm banning is the absolute LAST option in my opinion. If somebody hacks your game, suck it up and talk to the guy, he is a human being not a wall of text that hates you.

Bobo,

Thank you for posting. It is nice to hear a dissenting point of view.

One point that continues to puzzle me, is the source of your sympathy for the staff when they claim that players owe them a debt of gratitude for their hard work. My past experience with those sort of conflicts tends to suggest that if you need to ask for appreciation, then perhaps your expectations are far out of line with those of your beneficiaries.

Some players, I must believe, feel that the staff enjoy a set of benefits that outweigh their contributions to the game. Since the players are no less crucial to the game than the staff, and the players are alike nonsalaried, this would appear to give them the right to an opinion.

What would you have players believe when tales of favoritism, nannying and grudge matches abound on this site? I do not think that most of the considerable traffic to this site originates from a belief that these sorts of stories are nonsense. I think that a player who shows up to a game twenty hours per week for a period of ten years is due as much gratitude as any staff member. That some staff members feel differently outlines, to my satisfaction at least, the gap between player and staff opinion.

That staff are not servants of the playerbase is very much apparent.

In any regard, I look forward to your reply. It can not have been easy for you to appear here when you must have known that your side of the story would not receive an enthusiastic response.

Staff seem to feel that it is more enjoyable for most if secrets are learned rather than read.
As somebody who plays wow. I definetely feel that a large part of that game has been ruined by people posting their how-to's and guides. It is absolutely impossible (Barring extreme measures like creating your own group, leading the guild, and never getting near high-end content) to learn the fights in game. People expect you by the time you enter a new raid to

To answer Ness's questions from my own perspective.



I'm not sure I catch your point, sir. Staff don't deserve gratitude for administering the game? I don't think anybody -needs- to be grateful, but it shit sure doesn't hurt.



Sure, players have a right to an opinion and many do express their opinion on the much maligned GDB. But that doesn't make it a democracy.

Imagine if you told management at your favorite bar how to run their business. Sure I spend twenty hours there everyday (signs of a balanced lifestyle), I'm basically a fixture that contributes to the lively atmosphere of this establishment, I even donated some of the artwork that hangs above the urinals and so on. Does any of the above mean they have to listen to me? Not really. Just being a stakeholder doesn't put you in on the decision making team.

Don't like it? Sorry buddy, go ahead and start your own establishment. Or maybe just spitefully hope that the bar goes under.



I do find it worrying at times. But then anecdotal evidence is anecdotal evidence. I can only express concern for what I have encountered personally. And even then, the positive outweighs the bad.

Huh? Quotes please..

The comparison was weak to start with and has gotten weaker as people continue to post and elaborate.

Myself, I wish someone could come into the thread with a diffrerent opinion and not get flamed for it, but "Oh wait, it's the Internet."