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Post by punished ppurg on Mar 14, 2016 14:07:03 GMT -5
There must be a clause somewhere in staff documentation that says a minimum of 3 utter and complete knobs must be on the staffing team at any given time. I challenge the GDB community to make a post asking players if they approve or disapprove of thread locking. Ask it there. See what kind of attention it gets. And see how quickly it gets locked (or miraculously doesn't). It's no use. They'll have their character killed off, their karma wiped, and their account password scrambled for being "irrationally hostile" towards staff decisions. There's no mistake about it now. Looking at the utter stagnation of the game world, the Armageddon staff have made it clear they're more interested policing the thoughts of their players than actually contributing to the game. |
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Post by jkarr on Mar 14, 2016 14:43:36 GMT -5
There must be a clause somewhere in staff documentation that says a minimum of 3 utter and complete knobs must be on the staffing team at any given time. I challenge the GDB community to make a post asking players if they approve or disapprove of thread locking. Ask it there. See what kind of attention it gets. And see how quickly it gets locked (or miraculously doesn't). It's no use. They'll have their character killed off, their karma wiped, and their account password scrambled for being "irrationally hostile" towards staff decisions. There's no mistake about it now. Looking at the utter stagnation of the game world, t he Armageddon staff have made it clear they're more interested policing the thoughts of their players than actually contributing to the game.yup tho marky mark hasnt changed that method from day 1 its just in the past there were other staff with his same longevity and wiz ranking to balance it all out. theyre all gone and what we have left is the funky bunch |
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Post by grumble on Mar 14, 2016 15:01:15 GMT -5
Well, such is the life cycle of muds. It'll be sad to see it go, but I guess we can look forward to Athas mud and hope nobody makes the same mistakes there, luckily, we kind of have the guidelines for how to fuck up your game and how to promote badmins layed out on the table to examine, which, Armageddon did not have the good fortune to have in its early days.
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Post by grumble on Mar 14, 2016 15:06:16 GMT -5
I genuinely hope Athas mud uses racial documentation similar to the ones on Delerak's mud. You really do not need to force conflict. In an IC environment with limited spoilers it is BOUND to happen more often than would be hoped. I just hate it when it feels forced, but Arm can't change that now, it was set in stone long ago, and I've observed the effects and ripples of it enough for me to consider it a source of toxicity.
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Post by Azerbanjani on Mar 20, 2016 22:22:16 GMT -5
One of you fuckers teach me about lock picking.
Where do you get them in Nak, I know where in the Rinth.
Can people make master lockpicks or do you have to buy those.
What materials make each type of pick.
Can you lockpick while hidden.
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Post by jcarter on Mar 23, 2016 7:47:21 GMT -5
Considering the left leaning attitudes of the gdb it's funny to see the "haves" of Arm tell the have-nots that if they just pull themselves up by their role playing bootstraps they too can accomplish what pearl did
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Post by Procrastination on Mar 23, 2016 8:08:54 GMT -5
Good luck with that 'master lockpick' stuff mate. If you find that, you're finding legacy items. Assuming they didn't suddenly bring back a certain group that had a certain nice bunch of high grade lockpicks basically on demand.
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Post by punished ppurg on Mar 25, 2016 21:49:36 GMT -5
 OH. BOY. YET. ANOTHER. SHITPOST. BY. MALIFAXIS. THAT. WOULD. GET. ANYONE. ELSE. BANNED. BUT. HIS. BROWN-NOSING. SELF.
Absolute flaming. Hostility. An attack on some constructed straw-man of Kryos' actual petition or argument, which completely missed the actual point. But why should we expect the community to be held to the GDB's stated rules, when the staff members aren't enforcing those rules and are indeed breaking them themselves? This guy is the absolute antithesis of reasonable discussion, and completely fails to find any logical platform to stand on. Let's take a look at his ejaculated bulletpoints. - I don't give a fuck what you think about me. This is self evident, because only someone with a grandeur-delusion of untouchable toxicity could actually participate in a dialogue like this. All it would take is a reasonable, honest staff member to call him out on his hostility and punish him for it like everyone else is punished; then, he'd start caring real quick.
- Here is what is childish: This change JUST happened, and instead of trusting staff to know what they are doing, many people are resoundingly trending towards the Doomsaying Ninnyhammer camp.
Yes, the change just happened. From looking at the change, the idea of the Staff-Player Divide has never been more pronounced; it is obvious that staff have no idea what they are doing, or have any idea how to appeal to the avenue of development that the playerbase wants. This is a bold, unprecedented change effectively removing elementalists (Armageddon's "best" unique part) from the game as they've existed since inception. Many people are trending towards pessimism, because it's clear that Nessalin and the others leading the development curve are incapable of delivering a functional product on the first go. Remember Quarter-sorcs? The bank changes? There are many more examples of a poor idea being thrown out by the staff and floundering. Forgive these players for being able to see the trend; perhaps it's you that's so childishly contrarian that you're unable to see the trends that everyone else can.
- I also believe that a picture is worth a thousand words, and that meme presented my views of this ridiculous kneejerk reactionism perfectly.
A.K.A. "I wanted to show everyone how much of a lolcow I am, and now that I've been called out for adding nothing to the discussion, I'm going to attack people indiscriminately and throw insults at everyone who DARES have a different opinion about this event than I!"
- You claim to have background in research. Collect some motherfucking data over time before you decide to say that the staff do not take player interests as a serious factor in any change or situation.
As if Kryos is capable of collecting data. As if this staff team isn't the absolute worst example of bias and withholding negative information. Do you remember the months leading up to Nyr's hiatus, where the standard monthly "Where players found us" report wasn't posted or even developed because it would expose the truth of the MUD being on a down-turn? What Malifaxis doesn't understand is that the staff team are fully capable of speaking to other players in the same trite, belittling manner that he is so prolific in using; if he was able to snag a shred of empathy out of his poor, hostile atonal rants, he'd realize it's impossible to collect data from this excuse of a skunk-works that is the Armageddon development process.
- Give them a goddamn chance before you levy the bullshit accusation of them not caring about stakeholders. The benefit of the doubt is not a limitless resource, and the Armageddon community has been finding this resource running dry over the past years of sporadic, unsound development. Perhaps Kryos has been giving them a damn chance for the past years, and this accusation (which as it's been hashed out here without censorship or authoritarian moderation has proven itself to be a valid accusation) is an expression that the benefit of the doubt is running low. However, from the way Malifaxis cuts into it, you'd never assume he was talking to someone as level-headed as Kryos here; you'd just assume that he's in a shouting competition with someone just as wretched as himself. That may be his way of winning the argument -- since Malifaxis is incapable of looking worse than he already does, or being held accountable, he'll just make Kryos look worse by association with rule-breaking hostility-provoking accusations and mud-flinging.
The staff do not care about the stakeholders in this decision. The staff have an agenda, which is exposed in this change by continuing to lower the power ceiling of the game and removing avenues of roleplay from their game. This agenda, and the wishes of the stakeholders (a higher glass ceiling -- more roleplay avenues) are diametrically opposed. There is no "give them a chance" when it's clear they are running in the complete opposite direction of what would be good game design.
Malifaxis is a stooge; a tool who doesn't actually care about Armageddon as a game but instead cares more for his ego and the posturing with his equally-jaded "friends" that he's cultivated over years of hostility and blind brown-nosing of whatever flavor-of-power there is at the time. He does not care for the game, and he does not care for his fellow players. He does not care about abiding by the game or the forum's rules. Apparently he was banned from the forum recently; if there's any remaining integrity on that excuse of a team's board, they'll do it again and permanently. Malifaxis is a font of toxicity that drowns discussion and reasonable discourse in hate, and is an absolute joke warped by years of unchecked venom into a mistakenly valued voice. Remove that value now, anyone who would care about Armageddon as a game and not a circle-jerk community of the deep-rooted elites who obviously believe themselves above the rules of the normal player.
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Post by jonsmith on Mar 25, 2016 23:19:09 GMT -5
Malifaxis is Shalooonsh or whatever from Desert Elf fame.
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punished ppurg
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Post by punished ppurg on Mar 26, 2016 1:06:13 GMT -5
Malifaxis is Shalooonsh or whatever from Desert Elf fame. Right, I'm aware of that. Does that excuse his actions? Does it make it okay, or does it make him above the rules that are enforced upon other players? Not in my opinion. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2016 2:04:05 GMT -5
Malifaxis doesn't give a shit what anyone thinks... uh huh... that's why so much of his behavior is attention driven *rolls eyes*
You can glean that much just from his photo and signature if it's not completely fucking obvious from his posts. This is someone who centers their ego around what other people think of them, and on a level that's very separate from their day to day life no less.
Edit: And yeah, he constantly is doing stuff that would get others banned. If someone were to simply respond to him with a 'fuck off/you,' which would often be appropriate and far less childish than having to deal with his shit indirectly, that person would get banned.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2016 2:15:53 GMT -5
I'm related to plenty of poor educated farmer types who don't care what anyone thinks of them. They don't have to drive around town honking their horns and telling random people that they don't care though because, you know, how can you say that you don't care what people think if you have a constant need to express that sentiment belligerently and in an attention seeking manner.
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Post by grumble on Mar 26, 2016 9:49:08 GMT -5
Having RPed with Malifaxis on a few occassions, Ppurg and Hunted, I must say every action his characters take oozes consideration for the fun of others. I know his forum posts are shitposts, but what I've seen from him has always been generous to other players, sometimes, too much so, which leads to destructive situations in what would otherwise be considered "fun". I don't like that part, but such is life. Criticizing a person for being centered around their ego, well, you may as well call a huge portion of humanity to the stand. We can't all be kung-fu monks living up in a monastary in the mountains and coming up with rediculous answers to rediculous questions. I know because his viewpoints are opposed to yours it makes it easy to find fault with his personality, but, I find it unjustified. Let's just stick with the fact that he's wrong here, and often is wrong.
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Post by grumble on Mar 26, 2016 9:57:54 GMT -5
I mean, the worst I could say about him is he's usually wrong and a bad judge of character... but then, I could say the same for myself.
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Post by punished ppurg on Mar 26, 2016 12:55:34 GMT -5
Grumble perhaps you can't appreciate the piss and vinegar of a shitpost, seeing as you do them yourself all the time. I don't care that the man is "caring" in-game; his behavior in-game is not what's contributing to the negative turn of discussion of the meta-elements of Armageddon, and it surely doesn't make up for it.
You see Grumble, #realtalk I can let you get by with what you do because I know that you're just doing you. However, if you're sure that he's actually capable of being "caring", then his violently masturbatory rhetoric and his exploitation of his self-inflated rule-breaking invulnerability is a choice he consciously makes; and that's something I cannot forgive.
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