jenki
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Post by jenki on Mar 21, 2023 23:54:06 GMT -5
I'd be interested in playing a some kind of AI/ChatGPT powered RPI. Looks like someone granted my wish.
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Post by nottriste on Mar 22, 2023 8:21:40 GMT -5
I'd be interested in playing a some kind of AI/ChatGPT powered RPI. Looks like someone granted my wish. I have to say the gameplay is pretty thrilling.
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mehtastic
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Post by mehtastic on Mar 22, 2023 10:07:54 GMT -5
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Post by dumbplayer on Mar 22, 2023 10:49:06 GMT -5
I get that you're responding to a very relevant post in the thread, but I can't help but be curious about your intentions here. You've come onto the staff team of SoI 3.0, long after it's peak. Basically no one plays anymore. It doesn't seem like you're trying to get people to play outside of a milquetoast post on a somewhat obscure, niche gaming forum. You apparently have like 4 active staffers, and the rest are on hiatus because... they have lives? And you don't? I don't understand you tip-toeing around the fact that the game is dead and you're doing the bare minimum to change that. Hopefully you don't take this as a personal attack, because this is what 99% of MUDs seem to do based on my experience. They have a barely active playerbase and you always see the same excuses; it's a passion project, staff are volunteers, there's a lot going on behind-the-scenes, etc. Just look at how Ikthe runs Apocalypse. It's this weird 90s mentality of gaming that just doesn't work anymore. You shouldn't leave something up and running for 20 years and just hope someone comes along to play it and stays. At least, you shouldn't - just shut it down with some dignity and launch something better in the future if you so desire. Please don't take this as flaming, but... If you're gonna run a MUD, maybe have some balls? Be excited about your own game? Advertise it, promote it, recruit players so that you can generate conflict and storylines? I guess I'm asking for too much, especially given that I lack the brain cells to setup my own mud. I can create a world, design game systems, write you a 20-page essay with relative ease, or terminate a high-voltage transformer in real life, but as soon as I lay eyes on a mySQL database, I just want to light it on fire and throw my computer out the window. Granted, if you didn't like Songweaver/Jaunt, you'll probably just disagree with me. I'd take him over a Kite/Traithe/Halaster/Nyr/Shalooonsh, etc. any day of the week. I get that some of you are salty over the way he handled old SoI and Atonement, but again... He was a creative. He was exciting. The game was never boring with him at the helm. We know what happens when a game has no compelling, over-arching storyline. You get Armageddon, Parallel, SoI 3.0, Apocalypse, etc. Boring. You're not wrong to call a spade a spade. The game isn't doing great. I'm just pointing out that it's there and that staff isn't as nefarious as it used to be.
People who play RPIs and MUDs are the last of an ancient breed and there's only so much we can do to draw in players. Promoting the MUD too much? You're a shill. Don't promote it enough? You don't have any balls. At the end of the day, I think that SoI speaks for itself and all it needs is players. As the saying goes, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
My issues with Songweaver are more to do with his administrative style and inappropriate behavior. For a guy who constantly bitched about how Kite et al played favorites and controlled plots too closely, I was thoroughly soured by Atonement's prologue; I remember that stupid space ship. It was a storyline on rails and only a select few got to be on the ride. As for his behavior, he is widely credited with wrecking SoI's re-launch in 2014 by strong-arming everyone with his Hillmen, whereby he and his friends would threaten to ragequit and tell everyone not to play the game if they didn't get everything that they wanted. He also threatened to stalk a staff member (Frigga), which is not okay no matter how much you dislike Frigga.
I could go on and on about Songweaver, but that's not what this thread is about. If you're not interested in SoI, then don't play it. The current staff doesn't want to direct everything, we want players to drive the game.
gringoose , I didn't mean to come at you or anything. I appreciate your candor. Fuck Jaunt and fuck his shitty spaceship.
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Post by dumbplayer on Mar 22, 2023 10:53:21 GMT -5
The problem with RPI (STUPID ACRONYM) is your sitting down at a table with a bunch of That Guys and Thats What MY Character Would Do. Doesn't make for a good roleplaying experience.
I'd estimate 90% of these people would be drummed out of an actual tabletop game within the first 1-3 sessions.
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