gdbjohn
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Post by gdbjohn on Jan 16, 2020 0:23:36 GMT -5
I've been reading these forums for a while. I had (and have for some) a good opinion of staff. I even created a handle on this forum to defend staff with. I eventually started trolling people here (may have been on the first day I posted. I dont remember). I did eventually stop. I then created a new handle to get information on code because I'm a hypocrit.
I also blasted delarak many years ago when delerak created his Yahoo group called Armageddon Cheaters Board.
So I get it qwerty. I really do.
But for the love of god will you shut the fuck up and stop posting here. All you do is keep tensions high. Make sure negative threads continue forever and a day and generally keep things hostile between players and staff.
Some people on this board have done some shitty things. I think hosting old versions of Arm is a pretty shitty thing to do. So people here aren't all saints. But then neither are staff. Nergal has admitted he acted like a jackass. You attacking him isnt going to make anything better.
You truly are the hanging turd of the Armageddon community that we want to squeeze off but we just cant. JCarter doesnt care about Arm. He doesnt care what you do. He will let you to continue damaging the community forevermore. You arent going to provoke him. So as someone who still plays and enjoys the game I would ask you to please just fuck off and leave the rest of us alone.
Kind regards
John
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mehtastic
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Post by mehtastic on Jan 16, 2020 5:41:01 GMT -5
It's hard to tell if @qwerty sees himself as a super-vigilante out to defend the game or if he is the anti-Armageddon goblin he trolls us about being, trying to destroy Armageddon's reputation by making its defenders look like lunatics. His test for nergal, and the admission to the test that followed, were some of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen him post. If any staff member coordinates this defense effort with qwerty then they should call their dog back before it gets worse. |
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Post by foobar on Jan 16, 2020 6:15:14 GMT -5
I like reading qwerty's posts. He keeps the place from becoming an echo chamber. He often makes valid points, you guys just have a knee-jerk reflex to dismiss anything he says, no matter how reasonable it is.
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gdbjohn
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Post by gdbjohn on Jan 16, 2020 6:44:12 GMT -5
I like reading qwerty's posts. He keeps the place from becoming an echo chamber. He often makes valid points, you guys just have a knee-jerk reflex to dismiss anything he says, no matter how reasonable it is. 1. I don't like a lot of the stuff some people have done on this forum. Nor do I think staff are pack of crazed hyenas who are trying to feast on our corpses. I think there are some people here who have spent an inordinate amount of time obsessing over every perceived slight they can find and will gleefully post asinine rhetoric against the staff for a game they (I assume) haven't played in years. I think it's sad that these people do this and I don't read most of their posts.
2. In Australia we have a politician who definitely has some genuinely good ideas. But she is as dumb as a sack of doorknobs and is so racist her campaign consisted of warning people about a "yellow tsunami" that was going to wash over Australia. While she might have some genuinely good ideas or points, it is wrapped up in so much racism and stupidity that you cannot get to that nugget of a good idea without getting wading through a whole bunch of stupid racism.
That is what qwerty is like. No matter how valid some of his points might be, they are wrapped up in so much stupid bullshit that you just can't get to the good point without eating a plate full of turd sandwiches.
He does nothing but harm the game by posting here and the Armageddon community (along with the community of people who post here and don't play) will be improved simply by him choosing to leave and never post again.
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mehtastic
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Post by mehtastic on Jan 16, 2020 7:40:55 GMT -5
I like reading qwerty's posts. He keeps the place from becoming an echo chamber. He often makes valid points, you guys just have a knee-jerk reflex to dismiss anything he says, no matter how reasonable it is. Excepting qwerty, many of the board's members disagree on a lot of small things. Of course we have a lot in common as well, this is a board for disaffected Armageddon players after all. But that doesn't make a board automatically an echo chamber. If it did, just about every fucking message board on the internet would be an echo chamber, since message boards tend to have a theme. I'm fine with disagreement. I disagree with people who say the game can be played if you just avoid staff, since it betrays a naive belief that staff won't get all up in your shit whenever they please. And there are people on this board who say that sort of thing. Then I disagree with them. Qwerty's on a whole other level. He sees himself as an attack dog for the staff, or is trolling Armageddon staff by pretending to be said attack dog. If you read his posts and don't get embarrassed by proxy, I don't know what to tell you. If you've seen his test posts from yesterday, his inability to state how he knows the information he knows, his constant admissions of lying to misdirect jcarter and others, and think he is a net positive for rational discourse here then I don't know what to tell you. I guess there really is a sucker born every minute. |
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grumble
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Post by grumble on Jan 16, 2020 7:55:20 GMT -5
There's a handful of reasons why Jcarter won't ban Qwerty. People have asked before. Legit post, GdbJohn, but, if you think Qwerty and/or certain staff members don't have their heads so far up eachother's asses that they think this, along with certain staff policies, aren't a good idea, then I have a bridge to sell you.
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gdbjohn
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Post by gdbjohn on Jan 16, 2020 8:09:02 GMT -5
There's a handful of reasons why Jcarter won't ban Qwerty. People have asked before. Legit post, GdbJohn, but, if you think Qwerty and/or certain staff members don't have their heads so far up eachother's asses that they think this, along with certain staff policies, aren't a good idea, then I have a bridge to sell you. I fully realise qwerty will never be banned. Hence why I said as much.
Regarding everything else you said: I don't give staff a blanket wide defense anymore. I don't know what staff do, or don't, do. I can say that in game and through the request tool my interactions with staff have always been pleasant. I can also say that at least one staff member acts like a complete asshole in Discord, but then again so do a lot of the non-staff. While I do hold staff to a higher standard, when your pool of staff come from the pool of players and a lot of the players act like total dickbags, is it really any surprise that sometimes staff also like dickbags?
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punished ppurg
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Post by punished ppurg on Jan 16, 2020 8:17:28 GMT -5
Just to come at you, dude.
You're putting people in boxes here and saying "Oh, some people ALWAYS react like this, some people ALWAYS react like that." Considering nergal's reputation as "noted liar" not a month ago, for certain members of the community to come to understanding (and, in my case, sympathies!) after semi-adult communication: it just makes you come off as wholly ignorant to insinuate that. Have you not seen the change? Are you blind? Do you not see how your argumentative construct falls apart entirely?
Another low IQ misconception you're suffering from right now is the perplexing stance that we as a "shadowboard community" are somehow complicit or partially responsible for the actions of others -- as if we were the staff team. As if there is some shared burden by association. I'm not sure how to explain to you the difference between centralized group structures a la administrative teams, and decentralized communities. I don't think I could express it to you in a way you could pick up on it, considering you haven't figured it out yet.
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gdbjohn
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Post by gdbjohn on Jan 16, 2020 8:19:46 GMT -5
Just to come at you, dude. You're putting people in boxes here and saying "Oh, some people ALWAYS react like this, some people ALWAYS react like that." Considering nergal's reputation as "noted liar" not a month ago, for certain members of the community to come to understanding (and, in my case, sympathies!) after semi-adult communication: it just makes you come off as wholly ignorant to insinuate that. Have you not seen the change? Are you blind? Do you not see how your argumentative construct falls apart entirely? Another low IQ misconception you're suffering from right now is the perplexing stance that we as a "shadowboard community" are somehow complicit or partially responsible for the actions of others -- as if we were the staff team. As if there is some shared burden by association. I'm not sure how to explain to you the difference between centralized group structures a la administrative teams, and decentralized communities. I don't think I could express it to you in a way you could pick up on it, considering you haven't figured it out yet. I'm not surprised to see you lash out at me. This also really isn't the right thread. Let's keep this one talking about how much of an asshole qwerty is and how the game would benefit if he just went away. I'm willing to address the other points in a new thread if you are so inclined. If you don't want to, that's cool as well. |
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punished ppurg
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Post by punished ppurg on Jan 16, 2020 8:22:15 GMT -5
Of course you're not surprised. You're making a fool's error in judgment. I'd prefer that your shitty rhetoric stay out of the threads that actually matter, personally.
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gdbjohn
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Post by gdbjohn on Jan 16, 2020 8:34:44 GMT -5
Ok.
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delerak
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Post by delerak on Jan 16, 2020 8:37:50 GMT -5
I also blasted delarak many years ago when delerak created his Yahoo group called Armageddon Cheaters Board. Haha. People remember that little stunt? It only lasted for a week or two before Sanvean contacted me and politely asked me to take it down which I did. However there were some great nuggets of code info posted there by several of the IRC folks. |
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Post by gdbjohn on Jan 16, 2020 8:41:19 GMT -5
I dunno if people remember it. I clearly do. Its funny what you remember and what you forget.
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grumble
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Post by grumble on Jan 16, 2020 8:54:28 GMT -5
I must point out that like him or not, Qwerty is a shining example of the results of encouraging, empowering, and promoting sycophantic yes-men and the resulting culture of nepotism. It's an important example because it's a systemic toxin that Arm has imbibed in copious amounts for many years. His posts here validate the points of the abused and downtrodden by a system that considers itself above reprocussions. If you have a problem with Qwerty, rather than be a meany pants and calling him out and hurting his feelings, why don't you take it up with his superiors?
Hell, they might even bring you and that terminal douche in on it, you guys can be the three amigos, searching for clues as to the location of the ukraine server with hillary's missing benghazi emails and the proof that hunter biden staged watergate and the water is turning the frogs gay.
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Post by pinkerdlu on Jan 16, 2020 9:57:55 GMT -5
Speaking only for myself:
gdbjohn,
Thanks for making your own thread to pointlessly reiterate what has already been told to qwerty dozens of times. Thank you, also, for needlessly inserting your shitty politics into it and making it even more cancerous.
It’s obvious that you work primarily off emotion, I get it. Bad boy qwerty got you frustrated so you felt empowered to make your own thread and get your own voice out there on a topic that 99% of us already agree on: fuck qwerty.
Yet staff haven’t hurt your feelings, or came after you, so it’s okay to be silent on that topic. Clearly you don’t give a shit about the plethora of evidence of staff abuse and harassment. Because you group people together and care only about yourself. Yes, you are a hypocrite. (Most people are at times, yes, including myself. That aside.)
Conclusion. Go back to the gdb.
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