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Post by shakes on Dec 28, 2019 17:55:01 GMT -5
If only you could be trusted to be a neutral party, mehtastic. I feel you did twice the investigation into this that staff did.
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Post by mehtastic on Dec 28, 2019 18:11:50 GMT -5
Haha. Well, aren't you eager. I forgot about the last few screen shots with Shabago, so I asked a question. Insulting others is a fun procedure. Until you look pretty doing it  . The problem is that you often ask stupid questions to try and troll discourse here, so when you ask nearly stupid questions I have to answer them so people don't mistake you as a genuine actor. |
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Post by mehtastic on Dec 28, 2019 18:13:59 GMT -5
If only you could be trusted to be a neutral party, mehtastic. I feel you did twice the investigation into this that staff did. When we're talking about facts, there's no such thing as neutrality; only being right (to the best of one's own knowledge), being wrong (in an attempt to be right), or outright lying. Staff and their defenders here are lying; I am trying my best to be right. If people don't want to believe me because I "can't be trusted to be neutral" they can tell me how one finds a center position between right and wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2019 18:17:27 GMT -5
Haha. Well, aren't you eager. I forgot about the last few screen shots with Shabago, so I asked a question. Insulting others is a fun procedure. Until you look pretty doing it . The problem is that you often ask stupid questions to try and troll discourse here, so when you ask nearly stupid questions I have to answer them so people don't mistake you as a genuine actor. Can always rely on you to be my partner in trolling, Mehtastic. I'm gonna let this one drop. I'm interested where this thread will go. |
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Post by shakes on Dec 28, 2019 18:18:47 GMT -5
If only you could be trusted to be a neutral party, mehtastic. I feel you did twice the investigation into this that staff did. When we're talking about facts, there's no such thing as neutrality; only being right (to the best of one's own knowledge), being wrong (in an attempt to be right), or outright lying. Staff and their defenders here are lying; I am trying my best to be right. If people don't want to believe me because I "can't be trusted to be neutral" they can tell me how one finds a center position between right and wrong. Well, this situation is convoluted enough that it's difficult to tell right from wrong unless someone has been following every nuance and has investigated every claim. I haven't. |
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Post by mehtastic on Dec 28, 2019 18:22:00 GMT -5
When we're talking about facts, there's no such thing as neutrality; only being right (to the best of one's own knowledge), being wrong (in an attempt to be right), or outright lying. Staff and their defenders here are lying; I am trying my best to be right. If people don't want to believe me because I "can't be trusted to be neutral" they can tell me how one finds a center position between right and wrong. Well, this situation is convoluted enough that it's difficult to tell right from wrong unless someone has been following every nuance and has investigated every claim. I haven't. I agree it's been hard to follow. I just get a little bored of the same troll throwing the wrenches into the conversation when the answers they're trying to be concerned about have been explained in the same thread, if one actually reads it. Would it help if I put all the facts I can recall in a single post here? |
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Post by shakes on Dec 28, 2019 18:34:43 GMT -5
In a new thread, sure. Lay out your investigation piece by piece.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2019 18:45:35 GMT -5
In a new thread, sure. Lay out your investigation piece by piece. /\ this. There we can pick apart your bs better without shitting up someone else's thread. |
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Post by mehtastic on Dec 28, 2019 18:52:39 GMT -5
I'll wait a few days for nile to bring up some more information, like requests, before I lay out what we have. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2019 19:20:32 GMT -5
Hey Nile. Did they approach/ban you and then you contact them, or did you contact them when you saw your IP displayed?
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Post by nile on Dec 28, 2019 19:42:47 GMT -5
To clarify....
Staff told Kaitrena they banned me. In reality they asked me about IP sharing, to which I responded it was probably a mate of mine as a couple of occasions I had people over to watch the arena games. These friends are male. Staff cleared me of the IP sharing and I continued to play Dead. Then I saw those pictures and confronted them, pissed the fuck off, about it. That's when they banned me. This would never have happened if I'd kept my mouth shut but I felt disgusted by the staff's behaviours and let them have it.
And, yes, I use Private Internet Access servers in Netherlands sometimes. Given I'm an aussie who has never been to Europe I'm confident that was it. Like I said, one IP match out of 15 years playing.
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Post by Jeshin on Dec 28, 2019 19:52:41 GMT -5
Questions... They will be redundant.
1. You are Okthen?
2. You were not banned until you spoke to staff about the IP addresses?
3. Kaitrena was deemed to have lied because she was linked to your account which was historically 'grudging' with the staff?
If the majority yes...
4. Why were you not disciplined if the staff believed you were involved in a public hoax accusation of a staffer?
5. Was Kaitrena banned for falsely reporting Shalnooosh or did they decide her quitting was sufficient?
6. I'm an advocate of just posting the request tool when you're quitting if you have it. If you would be so kind?
As a note to any readers. It is very common to see people who leave a game after a long time get hung up on singular points. It may look nonsensical or 'crazy' to the outside observer but any game that you have an emotional investment in suddenly becoming a place you are unwelcome or do not want to play again is like breaking up with someone. You're going to fixate and be like "I can't event" and kind of harp on the same points. Thus it would be pretty petty to snipe ate niles for quitting the game and blowing up at staff even though he wasn't technically punished.
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Post by mehtastic on Dec 28, 2019 19:55:43 GMT -5
To clarify.... Staff told Kaitrena they banned me. In reality they asked me about IP sharing, to which I responded it was probably a mate of mine as a couple of occasions I had people over to watch the arena games. These friends are male. Staff cleared me of the IP sharing and I continued to play Dead. Then I saw those pictures and confronted them, pissed the fuck off, about it. That's when they banned me. This would never have happened if I'd kept my mouth shut but I felt disgusted by the staff's behaviours and let them have it. And, yes, I use Private Internet Access servers in Netherlands sometimes. Given I'm an aussie who has never been to Europe I'm confident that was it. Like I said, one IP match out of 15 years playing. OK, so if we're going by that, staff lied to Kaitrena - someone who was basically asking if it was safe to come back and play - about the person they thought was harassing her being banned. And then they lied to you? That's pretty bizarre. |
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Post by nile on Dec 28, 2019 20:07:39 GMT -5
Questions... They will be redundant. 1. You are Okthen? 2. You were not banned until you spoke to staff about the IP addresses? 3. Kaitrena was deemed to have lied because she was linked to your account which was historically 'grudging' with the staff 1. Yeah bro. That's my account name. Gaahl was Salty Black (the wretched, tooth-pierced elf from Two Moons) real name. Any TM players can confirm this. 2. Correct. I raised it and was banned for doing so...EDIT: let me clarify, I was banned for speaking out about them linking my IP to Kaitrena's and then lying to her about banning my account while exonerating me for IP sharing.
3. Yeah, it seems like we both use Private Internet Access VPN Netherland servers. And I've never had a fucking grudge against the staff or game. That shit is bizarre.
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Post by nile on Dec 28, 2019 20:10:11 GMT -5
Fuck it. I'll get you guys all the screenshots of the request logs and let you all try and make sense of it. Be warned, there is none to be found. This entire thing is completely fuckking bizarre. Like I said to the staff in one request, this is all like some shit plot IG.
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