foobar
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Post by foobar on Oct 10, 2019 9:46:55 GMT -5
The staff patsy, in his natural habitat, goes back to 'review bad!!" instead of acknowledging that there are loopholes in Rule #2 that can be easily patched up, ensuring that a review like this never happens again. It must be mating season.
> You must ask for consent from all visible players in the room before pursuing sexual or torture scenes.
This is ALREADY against the rules, and would result in a ban for the players doing this. I don't see where you got the idea that it's not. Do you assume something is excluded just because it's not explicitly mentioned? That's not how rules work, in general. You don't need to list every possible way to violate a rule, you just need to list the rule.
As for your grep suggestion?
Staff went through every hemote in the past two weeks and found nothing sexual outside of private spaces. I'm sure you'll accuse them of lying now, while a reddit user on a throwaway account is gospel and would never make anything up.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 9:50:25 GMT -5
We never left "review bad". The whole premise of the discussion is that the claims at that review are improbable. Fake. The events described there never happened.
I mean they do happen, people are weird. Something like that happened to Shakes for example, when he was a tribal. He should've complained and those players would've been talked to. And people do complain about it and culprits do end up having a conversation. But what that reddit poster described never happened. It's a lie. It's a fake. Probably written by a participant of these boards. To great detriment, I should add, to all the other people who have legitimate concerns.
I understand the idea. Someone sitting in a basement realizes that it is possible to enact change in a community that he has a love/hate for, by posting shit down reviews indirectly. From behind the corner. Passive aggressively. Cowardly. And that feels ... like power! That person is "forcing" someone else. A community even! To change their ways! He wants to do it more. It feels gratifying. It's even possible he can delude himself into thinking he's doing it for the 'benefit' of that community (when he's not plugging another mud that is). While in reality it's just an ego trip of someone who has been rejected, maybe even scorned.
Kind of like a boy in high school who was rejected by a girl. So he spreads rumours about her and forces her to wear longer skirts. A pathetic coward.
But that's internet. Everyone can post whatever they like. The only defense is not to take it seriously. Which is unfortunate, because it muddies the waters and makes it possible to disregard 'legitimate' concerns. Especially people who were somehow unfairly connected to that pathetic coward. Even when very far apart and hardly tangibly, but who has the time and will to really sort through the quagmire?
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mehtastic
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Post by mehtastic on Oct 10, 2019 9:52:26 GMT -5
Not to do all of staff's work for them, but you only have to ask for consent before pursuing the scene. The writing of the rule doesn't suggest you have to ask people who enter the room after the scene has started. This makes it possible to start a public sex scene in a public room with someone who's the only person in the room besides you, and continue regardless of who enters the room and what their willingness to consent is like. The onus is on people to leave the room if they don't consent to an ongoing scene to stop, it's not on the people perpetrating the scene to stop the scene.
And you're right, I don't care what staff claim to have found, since they've demonstrated that they're less trustworthy than someone who asked for MUD ideas, got Armageddon as a suggestion, then reported a negative experience on Armageddon a week later.
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mehtastic
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Post by mehtastic on Oct 10, 2019 9:53:52 GMT -5
In his natural environment, the staff patsy posts something extremely specific that's probably projection.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 9:57:30 GMT -5
In his natural environment, the staff patsy posts something extremely specific that's probably projection.
The "No, YOU!" Argument. Gotcha. Yes. I bow my head in shame and cover it with ash.
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mehtastic
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Post by mehtastic on Oct 10, 2019 10:02:27 GMT -5
In his natural environment, the staff patsy gets mad about the guy who he thinks is trying to destroy the game actually offering simple advice on how the game can shore up its rules and get better.
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delerak
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Post by delerak on Oct 10, 2019 10:16:46 GMT -5
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Post by jcarter on Oct 10, 2019 10:19:32 GMT -5
Argument: The likelyhood of someone catching 3 lewd hemotes with a noob watch is very low, therefore the review is likely fake. do you have any idea how crazy you sound nevermind the fact that you probably don't even know what bayesian probability is, much less how it applies here or why your argument is insufficient. mehtastic has made the argument about it already but you're too broken brained to comprehend that. you're so delusional that you think someone is going to a third party site, baiting armageddon players to advertise the game, and then writing up a fake story so that they can...do what exactly? make an offhand comment about how they saw a lewd comment in a game in which the playerbase and staff frequently talk about how pornographic the content can be? and you complain that members of this board are the ones with a persecution complex? roflmao |
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Post by jcarter on Oct 10, 2019 10:21:51 GMT -5
The staff patsy, in his natural habitat, goes back to 'review bad!!" instead of acknowledging that there are loopholes in Rule #2 that can be easily patched up, ensuring that a review like this never happens again. It must be mating season.
> You must ask for consent from all visible players in the room before pursuing sexual or torture scenes.
This is ALREADY against the rules, and would result in a ban for the players doing this. I don't see where you got the idea that it's not. Do you assume something is excluded just because it's not explicitly mentioned? That's not how rules work, in general. You don't need to list every possible way to violate a rule, you just need to list the rule. As for your grep suggestion?
Staff went through every hemote in the past two weeks and found nothing sexual outside of private spaces. I'm sure you'll accuse them of lying now, while a reddit user on a throwaway account is gospel and would never make anything up.
lol citation fucking needed. where are staff claiming this? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 10:22:35 GMT -5
Dude. They literally named themselves Querty. If you think that's legit, I think you're beyond help.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 10:23:32 GMT -5
You must ask for consent from all visible players in the room before pursuing sexual or torture scenes. There is no such thing as implied consent from past consent grants - you must ask every time. If someone does not give consent, or requests that the scene "fade to black" or "FTB", you must honor that. If you engage in a graphic scene that another player did not consent to, your character will be stored and karma reduced, and your account will be banned for a month at the first occurrence, and your account will be banned permanently on the second occurrence. www.armageddon.org/help/view/Rules |
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mehtastic
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Post by mehtastic on Oct 10, 2019 10:25:51 GMT -5
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Post by jcarter on Oct 10, 2019 10:28:51 GMT -5
Dude. They literally named themselves Querty. If you think that's legit, I think you're beyond help. we've been talking about the reddit thread posted by Auron6630 for the last 4 pages. i'm not asking for a citation on the consent policy. i'm asking for a citation of staff coming out and saying they grepped every single hemote and didn't find anything suggestive or worst outside of a private room as foobar claimed. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 10:36:04 GMT -5
Ah apologies.
Both posts claim the same exact thing. Neither one of them is true. As can anyone who plays the game, has watch, and frequents public places can attest.
As for the grepping. Staff reacted a few times publicly to these claims and they all turned out bullshit. At this point, it doesnt even deserve a bother of a public statement. Staff is not going to validate every bullshit post with a public announcement. That's the sad part. The fake reviews are forcing a situation when staff doesnt even bother reacting publicly to bullshit. One of these days, a 'real' problem will be missed because of that.
As for whether it's true, or not that staff checked hemotes. There is no official announcement. You are free to disbelieve.
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Post by jcarter on Oct 10, 2019 10:47:40 GMT -5
Both posts claim the same exact thing. Neither one of them is true. As can anyone who plays the game, has watch, and frequents public places can attest. there's multiple present players of Arm who have publicly stated that they have seen this same thing happen. are you really saying that all these people, whom play and enjoy Arm and are active in the community, are making it entirely up? |
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