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Post by jcarter on Aug 30, 2019 16:03:03 GMT -5
bravo to this guy... Posted on August 19th, 2019. "Adam" (lol Noted Liar Nergal?), if you do end up getting fired, I'd love to hear more of your thoughts on this board. adam darski is a polish musician that has the nickname/alias/whatever of nergal. i'm surprised at the cleverness of the poster.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 16:20:28 GMT -5
Hey. Speculate. Not a problem. But then support your speculation with something.
Speculation: the author is not staff. Support: the author displays lack of knowledge any staffer would have. Support of support: no other disgruntled staffer ever said things the way he did. To do so, would primarily disrespect themselves first and not many people are willing to do that over a game.
Most claims on these forums are more akin to
Speculation:staff loaded 10 tarantula on me and pked me. Support: because staff sucks and they are keeping me from playing high power roles.
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Post by Jeshin on Aug 30, 2019 16:25:44 GMT -5
Hey. Speculate. Not a problem. But then support your speculation with something. Speculation: the author is not staff. Support: the author displays lack of knowledge any staffer would have. Support of support: no other disgruntled staffer ever said things the way he did. To do so, would primarily disrespect themselves first and not many people are willing to do that over a game. Most claims on these forums are more akin to Speculation:staff loaded 10 tarantula on me and pked me. Support: because staff sucks and they are keeping me from playing high power roles. Please provide 10 citations of grievances against staff. Of those 10 please have 5-6 being analogous to the speculation you described. That would then constitute 'most' and your claim will be accepted in the peer-reviewed halls of debate.
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Post by jcarter on Aug 30, 2019 16:30:02 GMT -5
Hey. Speculate. Not a problem. But then support your speculation with something. Speculation: the author is not staff. Support: the author displays lack of knowledge any staffer would have. Support of support: no other disgruntled staffer ever said things the way he did. To do so, would primarily disrespect themselves first and not many people are willing to do that over a game. 1) you claimed they were a member of these boards and yet suddenly dropped it when called out. hmmm. 2) none of that is support. "no other disgruntled staff member has ever said things the way he did"? ok qwerty i guess we'll all just take your encyclopedic knowledge of how every one of the hundred+ staffers has typed and spoken about armageddon mud in the last 25+ years.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 16:33:50 GMT -5
To be honest, okey. I can do that, Jeshin. Maybe not the number you indicate, but enough to be given thought if the reader is objective enough. It'll take me awhile of course. And it'll be a lot of wasted effort since people actually need to be objective, but it's okey. Give me a few days. As an example here's a link. Please pay attention to commentaries. The actual OP is actually a worthwhile read. armageddonmud.boards.net/thread/1010/impersonating-noble
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 16:35:11 GMT -5
Hey. Speculate. Not a problem. But then support your speculation with something. Speculation: the author is not staff. Support: the author displays lack of knowledge any staffer would have. Support of support: no other disgruntled staffer ever said things the way he did. To do so, would primarily disrespect themselves first and not many people are willing to do that over a game. 1) you claimed they were a member of these boards and yet suddenly dropped it when called out. hmmm. 2) none of that is support. "no other disgruntled staff member has ever said things the way he did"? ok qwerty i guess we'll all just take your encyclopedic knowledge of how every one of the hundred+ staffers has typed and spoken about armageddon mud in the last 25+ years. Well. They advertised these boards. They used data from these boards. They used some commonly mentioned terms of these boards. Seriously?
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Post by jcarter on Aug 30, 2019 16:46:25 GMT -5
Well. They advertised these boards. They used data from these boards. They used some commonly mentioned terms of these boards. Seriously? nyr, nergal, and nessalin have all been guilty of some or all of those accusations. i guess they're active users too? i'll bite tho. pls enlighten me on this esoteric language that allows you to determine a regular armageddon player from one who posts on armageddonmud.boards.net
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Post by shakes on Aug 30, 2019 16:47:25 GMT -5
I'm not really speculating.
The person said they were on staff so I, without evidence to the contrary, took them at their word. Why would I do otherwise?
It's not really a gamechanger of a review no matter what its origins.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 17:00:56 GMT -5
Well. They advertised these boards. They used data from these boards. They used some commonly mentioned terms of these boards. Seriously? nyr, Noted Liar Nergal, and nessalin have all been guilty of some or all of those accusations. i guess they're active users too? i'll bite tho. pls enlighten me on this esoteric language that allows you to determine a regular armageddon player from one who posts on armageddonmud.boards.net
Probably?
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Post by Jeshin on Aug 30, 2019 17:02:31 GMT -5
To be honest, okey. I can do that, Jeshin. Maybe not the number you indicate, but enough to be given thought if the reader is objective enough. It'll take me awhile of course. And it'll be a lot of wasted effort since people actually need to be objective, but it's okey. Give me a few days. As an example here's a link. Please pay attention to commentaries. The actual OP is actually a worthwhile read. armageddonmud.boards.net/thread/1010/impersonating-nobleTake a screenshot of the offending statement. Above or below the screenshot link to the source (thread). Then we can see -exactly- what you are referencing and probe further if we like. Putting the onus on your audience to go into a source and find what you want them to find is disingenuous. State what you believe clearly to be critique accurately. Don't provide a link and be like well if you were OBJECTIVE you would have found what I wanted you to find in a multiple post thread. Especially the one where you immediately qualify the OP of the thread as acceptable or not your intended point.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 17:04:52 GMT -5
Come on. It's only 4 posts to read. And I was using a phone. But yes. I'll try to be more precise in other cases.
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Post by Jeshin on Aug 30, 2019 17:23:32 GMT -5
Come on. It's only 4 posts to read. And I was using a phone. But yes. I'll try to be more precise in other cases. Given you did the whole Jeshin totally supports hacking and linked to a giant multi-page forum thread, I'm not really sympathetic to you doing it anywhere.
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Post by mehtastic on Aug 30, 2019 18:11:41 GMT -5
Well. They advertised these boards. They used data from these boards. They used some commonly mentioned terms of these boards. Seriously? nyr, Noted Liar Nergal, and nessalin have all been guilty of some or all of those accusations. i guess they're active users too? i'll bite tho. pls enlighten me on this esoteric language that allows you to determine a regular armageddon player from one who posts on armageddonmud.boards.net "Adam Darski" (lol at the name) can't be staff because Armageddon has no flaws and none of the staff could possibly be disgruntled with Armageddon. As evidence I will point to the number of staff who clearly got disgruntled with Armageddon before leaving the game forever. Checkmate, shadow-hooligans!
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Post by mehtastic on Aug 30, 2019 18:16:25 GMT -5
Hey. Speculate. Not a problem. But then support your speculation with something. Speculation: the author is not staff. Support: the author displays lack of knowledge any staffer would have. Speculation: the author is a staff member. Support: the author says so. Counterpoint: the author displays lack of knowledge any staffer would have. Reasoning: the staffer doesn't want to give themselves away and get targeted with retribution. Ah so we were wrong about Armageddon being a cult all along, it's actually more like a gang
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Post by gloryhound on Aug 30, 2019 18:45:26 GMT -5
It's true. There are a lot of disgruntled staff members who quit. The latest one being reiloth I would suppose. But none of them would talk like that dude have. A lot of points he makes are untrue and any ST would be we aware of it. Basically it's just some member of these boards decided to bullshit a little. Oh wellz. Way to antagonize needlessly. Which points are untrue? Also, how would you know what knowledge a staff member would have given that you've said you're not on staff? in four instances I noticed an administrator tweaking their character's skill levels and giving them weapons that looked similiar to some basic equipment but had more powerful damage dice. This really boils my blood. Imposing an enormous skill grind and making upper levels of weapon skills virtually unobtainable through play, making weapon properties virtually opaque, and then skipping past it for their own characters. I wouldn't be surprised if they lower skills levels of people they see as rivals too then.
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