I killed the PC who stole Polain's key. I think it was Shakes but he wouldn't cop to it.
This random weirdo kid turned up in the 'rinth one day and asked to join the Guild. I was playing the main enforcer at the time. The kid was being pretty blunt about it, approaching it basically like "I want to enlist for the Guild," so we told her to fuck off. Then a few days later she contacts me and says she's stolen Polain's key and wants to offer it to us as proof of talent. Well, I told her that I'll pass it along to the boss since the boss wasn't online at the time and I was just the muscle.
The very next RL day, I found out the kid got bored of waiting and had gone and offered the key to the eastsiders instead. That pissed us off. Lord Templar Nektol had apparently also interrogated the thief but let her go because he couldn't find the key or something. Anyway, we still wanted the key because I think the templars had asked the Guild boss to retrieve it, so I tell the kid to come meet me. She starts talking mad shit, spouting off about how useless and weak the Guild is and that the boss is a piece of shit or something to that effect. Kid also fucking says where she is: "I'm in the elven tenements, you can't touch me there." Meaning the building off Wall Road with some NPC elves in it.
So I go there with another Guilder and the kid is just sitting there on the top floor, acting all smug and saying the Guild can't touch her, insulting us etc. The place is described as basically a homeless shelter for destitute elves, mostly kids and elderly neckers, so I draw my weapon and just kill the kid while emoting about warning the elves not to get involved. After the kill, we continue to RP some mafia-like stuff about how the sharps better mind their own business and not worry about why some human (or possibly breed) kid thought this was a smart place to go and hide from the Guild, and that was that. We didn't find the key, which pissed Nektol off, but by that point Polain had already stored so everyone just dropped the issue.
Immediately after the kill, the kid's player starts bitching up a storm on Discord. One person sends me a screenshot of them messaging him something like "Sahad just PKed me in front of NPCs, BULLSHIT." And I mean like three minutes later. I'm guessing they also whined to staff because someone messages me in-game asking why we did it, in staff's typical confrontational tone implying we'd done something wrong. When I explained that this non-elf kid decided to go hide with the elves and openly talk shit to Guild hitmen while bragging that these elves would keep her safe, the staff member backed down and made no further comment.
Moral of the story: the existence of NPCs in a room does not automatically mean nothing can happen to you. If you fling insults at the Russian mafia and then go hide in Compton, as a white guy, don't expect the Crips to protect you or care about your well-being or object when the mafia comes to get you. We all have an obligation to take the virtual world into account, and sometimes taking the virtual world into account means judging that the virtual world would not interfere. We decided that random destitute elves wouldn't get in the way of Guild hitmen retrieving a non-elf from their property, and staff seemed satisfied with that when we explained it.
Meanwhile, if you get PKed, don't immediately start tattling on Discord. You fucking idiot.
Post by High Sun Freeze Gun on Mar 16, 2020 10:43:30 GMT -5
I can confirm Polain paid out the ass for said key or so he said in storm and he moved his shit off to a skimmer I heard in the Byn. I don't know if he stored but he was around awhile after the key incident.. I heard it was Nektol shaking him down for the 10k..
I tried to work with Nektol a couple times and he often went crazy on payments and he also liked to not work with anyone unless it was his Clearly OOC pals.
I'll say I had good experiences interacting with Nektol as both Saraan the Usurer and Sahad, but in both cases, it also led to my blunt and tedious execution. He never struck me as someone who didn't want to include people outside his circles. I don't talk to anyone when I play, and he was eager to include on all occasions. He did strike me as someone who was over-extending and getting people killed because, well, when there's nothing else going on in the game at the time, anyone making any moves whatsoever will also wreak a path of destruction in their wake. If you had anything to do with Nektol, your character had an expiration date simply because he got people involved in stuff.
It's the curse of today's Armageddon: you can play Random Bynner #158204, you can play Senior Merchant Fuckface or Sponsored Lord Whatever... but do anything else and you're just going to get killed one way or another because the total absence of any other story material in the game means sooner or later, killing you will be someone's Something To Do. Nektol was good at over-extending, and that meant getting everyone killed. At the end of the day, I chalk it up to bad game management. He would have been a great templar at a time when there was actually something meaningful going on in the game, but when there isn't, he's the type of templar that just become a poisoned chalice.
Last Edit: Mar 16, 2020 20:36:51 GMT -5 by lechuck
Maybe, you're just special. I watched him snub a lot of people, or chase people out of taverns, just to keep some rp tidbit to himself and a couple others.
Actually had my pc threatened with death, once, for walking down a road and running into a trivial scene, and stopping to gawk/emoting with the other vnpc people on the busy road to watch, because its the most reasonable thing to do for some commoners to do, given the context and allanaki culture. Didn't once engage with the emote about it being a busy road full of people, in the middle of the day, just wanted me to leave right away, so I'd stop putting how absurd he was being relative to the game world and virtual pop, in plain sight.
Wouldnt want some pesky realism getting in the way, of him jacking off all over himself, I guess.
vex: Like, going backwards on the karma scale, or just plain having karma at all, wtf. Ridiculousness, is the fate of everything related to Arm, I guess.
Mar 26, 2020 22:05:40 GMT -5
psyxypher: I'd be ashamed of myself if my bad experiences stopped you from /at least/ trying.
Mar 27, 2020 0:15:17 GMT -5
psyxypher: Though, I would like an alternative to Karma. I've come up with a few.
Mar 27, 2020 0:15:36 GMT -5
nile: not arm does a lot of call outs for crafts etc...tough to be one as your subguild but it shouldn't be your main focus either. i also tend to find them just useful for coins etc really...that said, not arm is far more accommodating if you want shit done
Mar 27, 2020 2:44:44 GMT -5
psyxypher: Would be nice if when you use the Craft command to see recipes you could make, that you could piece together what other ingredients are. Right now I'm flopping between trying for another character or seeing if I can weather this out.
Mar 27, 2020 15:08:04 GMT -5
psyxypher: Both sound like pretty terrible options, to be honest.
Mar 27, 2020 15:08:17 GMT -5
vex: If you aren't having fun with it, do something else. Why waste leisure time, on something not making you happy? It makes no sense at all.
Mar 27, 2020 15:36:32 GMT -5
psyxypher: Mainly 'cause I'm worried my next character will be even less fun....but you're right.
Mar 27, 2020 17:26:41 GMT -5
psyxypher: Is there a board for ideas you'd want to add to the game?
Mar 28, 2020 18:52:21 GMT -5
nile: use the 'idea xxxx' command
Mar 30, 2020 4:22:28 GMT -5
psyxypher: I like having all my crazy ideas in one place. And getting feedback.
Mar 30, 2020 21:51:53 GMT -5
explayer: You can't count on the staff to read GDB threads. If you want a record of your ideas, submit them one by one using their request tool.
Mar 31, 2020 3:16:47 GMT -5
psyxypher: Again, I want some feedback from players before I put the ideas in.
Mar 31, 2020 9:22:24 GMT -5
explayer: Yeah, good luck with that. The GDB hates anything that isn't proposed by the staff.
Mar 31, 2020 13:01:21 GMT -5
vex: They also hate anything, that IS proposed by staff.
Mar 31, 2020 17:45:33 GMT -5
vex: Basically, the GDB is a shitchute spectacle of the worst kind, and you should respect yourself more, than to actively seek their opinion on anything.
Mar 31, 2020 17:47:28 GMT -5
vex: And you can pretty much count on them censoring, just about anything you post, that upsets one of their discord sluts, too.
Mar 31, 2020 17:49:32 GMT -5
psyxypher: I gave up on Arm a /long/ time ago. Like, sometime around Hasan's death, to be precise.
Mar 31, 2020 22:59:08 GMT -5
jkarr: did u run with hasan back then
Apr 1, 2020 9:57:56 GMT -5
psyxypher: Not at all. I was a turbo-noob back then.
Apr 1, 2020 15:09:36 GMT -5