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Post by lyse on Jul 10, 2018 20:15:03 GMT -5
But you left out Player B "I can understand running a noble house/GMH into the ground. They're heavily reliant on staffside support."
That's what I'm talking about. My question to you was "Why would staff even be doing that period?"
The only thing that's clear to me is we have different ideas of what staff should be doing and how they should be doing it. Maybe you have some level of staff operations that I don't. I'm looking at it as a player, who's minding her own business, playing how I play and staff has already decided, they aren't going to support anything that I do...in fact, they want me to quit altogether. That's....fucked up.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 22:46:59 GMT -5
Mkay. I'm running out of options here. It's either giant hyperbole, or hand puppets. Let's try it again.
Player A: Staff is making Players lose thousands of dollars! Player B: How would stuff do that? I can understand staff making players lose karma. But dollars? Player A: They began charging 1 dollar per each time I type <skills> command. I played for 2 hours now and I'm already 2095 dollars in. Player C: Why would stuff want to make players lose karma? Your question only confirms to me that staff is out to get me. They're trying to make us all lose karma!
I'm sorry for this. But seriously. It's either that, I'm going to start using hand puppets.
why [hwahy, wahy] See more synonyms on Thesaurus.com adverb
for what? for what reason, cause, or purpose?: Why did you behave so badly?
how [hou] See more synonyms on Thesaurus.com adverb
in what way or manner; by what means?: How did the accident happen? to what extent, degree, etc.?: How damaged is the car? in what state or condition?: How are you?
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Post by lyse on Jul 11, 2018 0:50:26 GMT -5
There you go with the insults again. I'm not sure what reality your in but it's funny as hell.
Here's what he said
To which you are trying to say "The question wasnt 'why'. The question was 'how'." I agree with you there. I want to know how too.
All this talk about comprehension, when it's you that's having a problem. This is your version of reality:
Bzzzz! Wrong! That's not what he said at all. He said "Also, afterwards, staff nerf'd his clan activity so hard in the months to come that he chose to store the character (almost 2 months of playtime)"
How did you even get Clan X got nerfed from that? Reading comprehension though.
That's not what he said. That's what you thought he said. He said HIS CLAN ACTIVITY not CLAN X, not his CLAN'S activity. Maybe your mind translated it into that, but that's definitely not what he said. You went somewhere else. It's what you do. It's cool though, I'm very patient.
He hinted at what happened:
Here's your subtle shift. He didn't say THEY he said that HE had going. Where are you getting they from? It's alright, don't answer that. It's a comprehension thing, somewhere in the text something is jumbling up for you.
Here's what you left out:
That's a direct quote from you, exactly what you said, no qwerty jumble. Kind of puts my question to you in context
But uh, keep playing with sock puppets and googling why and how.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 1:03:53 GMT -5
Literally reposting the entire post.
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Post by picklehead on Jul 11, 2018 1:38:44 GMT -5
Put down the glue. The D-elf guy is saying HIS SPECIFIC PLOTS WERE PURPOSEFULLY DERAILED.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 1:42:38 GMT -5
Yup. But see, that sounds a lot more self-centered then 'clan'. A difference between the staff not wanting to play with him and the staff putting the entire clan out to posture, because ... he pked a dude?
The former? I honestly dont know. There is no log of him with Rathustra. He might've cussed him out back and forth and Rathustra was an elf admin at the time? It's possible. I dont know. The concept of putting a breaks on an entire clan over one singular player though ... sounds abominable to me.
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Post by shakes on Jul 11, 2018 1:54:16 GMT -5
I've felt like stuff I was doing and submitting requests on got delayed and ignored to the point that everything became irrelevant. You don't have to be actually blocked to not get anywhere. Sometimes they can just not give you the attention you need to succeed and you'll die on the vine. Maybe that's what the guy meant.
Arm is strange in that one player can make or break a whole clan. Some raging asshole? Nobody wants to play alongside of him. Someone very inclusive and fun? Suddenly that clan is bursting at the seams. I've always felt that the player makes the clan way more than the storyteller.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 2:00:45 GMT -5
Agreed. And in a way that 'is' a type of favoritism/staff pettism. Sometimes, a player is so good, that they attract other players 'and' staff attention. Not because staff are buddy buddies with that player. Not because they're fucking, or drinking, or aiming, or or anything really. But just because they are fun to watch. They dont feel boring. Interacting with them does not feel like handling a child that's ready to throw a tantrum every time they get a no. They do get plenty of nos just as well, but they either overcome them, or find alternatives, or just plain dont whine endlessly about it. They do end up getting more staff interaction, but that's hardly favoritism. That's just a matter of being an engaging player.
They still dont deserve undeserved resurrections, or intervention when they get PKed. Truth is though. A lot of these types of players get PKed just fine. So ... those scenes arent really stopped. Bar some overzealous staffer, I suppose.
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Post by shakes on Jul 11, 2018 2:25:19 GMT -5
A storyteller is "playing" the game too, right? I wouldn't expect them to want to endure some of these asshats any more than I want to.
This game is filled with weird shit and sometimes you can just be tooling along and step in a big steaming pile of it.
Once with a raider of mine, I managed to catch a grebber who had been running away from me for like a RL week. Haha, beat them down and was going to give them a good scar with my whip (not kill them). I uncoiled the whip dramatically and asked for consent for a whip scar.
The player ooc'd back, "I consent to that and any other mature sexual roleplay you want to do now."
Uh, ick. I got so freaked out I jumped on my beetle and ran back to Red Storm to hide cowering in the bar. Someone really wanted me to play a sadistic rapist in detail? NOPE.
Sadistic raider? Pretty cool. But that's where I draw the line.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 2:32:23 GMT -5
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whoa.
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Post by ibusoe on Jul 11, 2018 16:37:05 GMT -5
Yup. But see, that sounds a lot more self-centered then 'clan'. A difference between the staff not wanting to play with him and the staff putting the entire clan out to posture, because ... he pked a dude? The former? I honestly dont know. There is no log of him with Rathustra. He might've cussed him out back and forth and Rathustra was an elf admin at the time? It's possible. I dont know. The concept of putting a breaks on an entire clan over one singular player though ... sounds abominable to me.
I try to avoid sarcasm because I feel that it signals immaturity. You're kind of walking right into this one, Kid.
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Post by pinkerdlu on Jul 11, 2018 16:42:55 GMT -5
Qwerty reminds me a little of myself when I was 15 yrs old and larped as a cynic. heheh so edgy and 'rational', awesome. Then reverts to insults and sarcasm when they get caught in their bullshit.
All of these losers/degenerates coming out of the woodwork to support Malifaxis and their shitty mud that can barely break 20-30 players peak.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 18:15:52 GMT -5
Well. Come on. I was polite a bunch of times. There is no bullshit to call on. She kept not understanding and I began getting trollish. How else can I respond when someone repeatedly argues with me about I things I myself posted, when a simple reread of the very post should clear up any confusion. I tried once, twice, three times. It didnt work. So I began to troll, can you really blame me? Bitterflashback begins to troll after a 2nd time, I resisted until 4th!
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Post by shakes on Aug 17, 2019 15:00:10 GMT -5
It's time to review this thread in current context.
Patterns repeat. Cycles persist.
The only thing that changes is my (or your) failure to recognize patterns as such.
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Post by lechuck on Apr 14, 2021 11:15:31 GMT -5
Reminds me of my last PC, a couple of years ago. It was a fairly run-of-the-mill mundane human enforcer in the Guild. One day, the Guild leader asked me to kill somebody. I didn't really know who it was, but I asked for a description and it was distinctive enough that I felt justified in looking for the person. I spend quite a bit of time looking for them, and finally I see them in Allanak and assassinate them. Well, I become wanted, so I immediately climb up the wall onto a rooftop and hide there.
Minutes pass by before two PC AoD officers (one of them was Lizzie's useless officer) walk into the room. On a random rooftop. Now, no PCs were around when I made the kill, and while it's certainly possible that someone tracked me down, I happen to know enough about the mechanics of fleeing away from shadowers and using hunt in climb rooms to say that it was pretty unlikely. Anyway, they walk into the room... and I immediately get disconnected. Like the very moment they enter the room.
I have a fantastic ISP and my internet goes down maybe once or twice a year tops. At the time, I was on several other online services that were not cut off. My internet did not go down; I was disconnected specifically from ArmageddonMUD and nowhere else. I was able to log back in immediately, which my client was set up to do, and I'm already in combat. Within the span of two or three seconds, we go from these two characters entering the room, to spotting me hidden, to disconnected, to combat.
Well, as luck would have it, I was playing an enforcer with high strength and a two-handed bludgeoner, so I basically knock out both of them with two consecutive headshots. Apprentice bludgeoning. Yay game balance. After that, I report back to the Guild leader about the succesful hit and I'm told to come back there. I do so, stealthed, and step into the Folley, only to be greeted by Mansa's blue-skinned "not really the Guild leader but has been around for five RL years doing nothing whatsoever so is granted a coded leadership position" character (not the one I reported back to), who promptly unarmed-attacks my character in the barroom, which causes the mul NPC to instantaneously assist them and one-round me.
It was the first and only assassination my PC had carried out, ordered by the Guild leader at the time. I think his name was Friendly.
I'm told that Mansa was subsequently congratulated by staff for taking care of "the situation."
This is what passes for plot on ArmageddonMUD. If you do anything that wasn't in staff's plans, or that stepped on the toes of their alts/friends, you will be griefed out of the game by the people who purport to be in charge of it. It's one gigantic pile of degenerate bullshit. Don't waste your time on it. I haven't played since.
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