Post by lyse on Jul 2, 2018 18:13:51 GMT -5
So a staffer gets a wish up "Hai. I just killed a SLK. He didnt have time to way anyone, but another SLK shows up right afterwards and proceeds to kill me"
Clearly, he did have time to way someone as the log clearly shows.
So the staffer swoops in and puts the breaks on the entire situation. He/she doesnt pass judgement, he/she just kicks up the ladder to Rathustra.
Clearly, they did pass judgement and you left out the part where they disconnected the SLK guy three times.
The player sends the log and it all gets figured out. Nobody is stored. I wonder if the mage's 'escape' got retconned and the mage got stored. Would be interesting to see the log of that conversation.
SLK player did get stored. Right after he got threatened with "How about we just store you then." Right after he pretty much said "Gee, I hope I get a free pass the next time I'm in the process of getting killed." Which was after 'gick man got whisked away to safety. Why isn't that questionable to you? Did you read the log?
How do you nerf a clan activity?
Not sure what you're implying here. But the question should be why would staff want to nerf a clan that is perpetually dead? I mean...who plays Delves and for 50 something days?
See what I mean? Everything's a little one sided here in this situation. The staffer acted rushly, but he had to rush, because he didnt know the situation and tried to act quickly. This is akin to SWAT moving into a building. They dont stop and figure out who's a criminal and who's not, they put 'everyone' down by force. Nooot the best way handled, but nobody got hurt, did they?
I don't and I'm really trying to. It's not one sided. The staffer should not have rushed to do anything but watch, like they usually do, then ask for the log. Instead, they did some very questionable things. One...disconnect SLK player, when SLK player put mercy on. Two...asked him how did he know where to go? The way? Duh? It's really funny Staff is analogous to a SWAT team to you. A SWAT team actually is trained to not hurt someone that is innocent. Staff should not be analogous to a SWAT team anyway. They didn't put everybody down by force, they put one player down by force and gave the other a pass. Either you're refusing to see that or you're refusing to see that. It doesn't matter if they quietly stored the 'gick dude later, it's the fact that they did what they did and how they did it.
How do you nerf a Delf clan activity staffside? Kill them off one by one? I can understand running a noble house/GMH into the ground. They're heavily reliant on staffside support. But how do you nerf SLK? What exactly was done?
You keep going back to that. Your line of thought is...very uhh but I'm just going to leave that alone. But if you're implying that staff are sitting back saying "We don't like X, let's run them into the ground or kill them." Yeah....I'm going to leave that alone.
I've come to the realization that some players are going to see what they want to see regardless of what is put before them. It's ok to say staff messed up. It's ok to say they did something wrong. That's the only way they're going to realize they're doing something wrong...if they actually want to change. I honestly don't think they're really all that keen on changing the way they do things at all, because they keep doing the same kinds of things.
I used to think "Gaslighting" and "Victim blaming" were catch alls that were thrown out there to be dramatic. It's becoming very clear that these are very much things that occur on Armageddon. They may not happen all the time, but they happen enough for there to be some serious concern. It's very much a game where you can sit back and say "That doesn't happen to me." until it's happening to you, until you find yourself dropping your own log here or quietly walking away from the game.