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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 11:57:20 GMT -5
I'd guess they're a combination of skill bumps, good stats and a new heavy combat class. The inconsistencies are typical of having high combat skills, but newbie offense and defense. If I'm not misunderstanding, the heavy combat and fighter classes have combat skills that cap 10-15 points higher than the original warrior, meaning skill bumps give larger benefits per bump. The location start skill bumps remain the same, as it's a static boost as far as I know. The new classes also start 15-25 points higher in their relevant class skills to begin with. The exception being offense and defense, which don't start much, if any, higher than they used to. "Alright. That helps make things MUCH more clear. However, it still doesn't explain how they hit those heights. They weren't really getting hands-on training by the experienced pcs, rather 3 brand new pcs and then my measly ranger sometimes. And how much staff have nerfed wild life, there's only so much you can gain in an IG month. So even if they did start higher with skills, it doesn't explain how they beat ancient maxed skill - and also trained base off/def warriors. They would have had to go past those caps already...in under an IG month of play." Someone else told me about a similar thing happening, where some city elf warrior came in and took on the entire clan out of nowhere. They were dead sure it was a staff cheating with a suped-up new class because they got promoted in couple of weeks, too. I recognized the PC by their short desc... as being one of the older PCs running around the game. A couple of years, at least. Misunderstandings do happen, especially these days, where staff bias is extreme and the rift between karma players and not only grows with every code change. "I was still playing arm actively when this c-elf warrior came into that exact clan and went mayweather. This new PC in under a month played nearly beat that c-elf warrior, in the first/second round. About 2-3 years in at least, having dominated his clan, nearly lost to chargen pc - and had difficulty hitting him." I'm not saying staff don't play supermen anymore, but from what I gather, you're simply feeling the impact of a player with karma to burn running one of the new classes. I said in one of the other threads that there are some class/subguild combinations that are insanely competent right out of the box. Odds are pretty good you simply ran into someone who figured it out and had the karma to burn on maxing it right out. They're really going to have to look at ramping up the challenge from the game world because some of these classes are insanely stacked. Enforcer is going to end up being a globe trotting murder machine for anyone with karma for outdoorsman, for example. Or slipknife, for the stealth bonus. It's pretty nuts what some of these are capable of out of the box. With some talented grinding, they're going to leave the master level old guild PCs in the dust. 50+ days and you're going to be getting licked by 2-5 day karma-backed newbies. "If this is how fast you can progress with the new guilds - and if it isn't a staff avatar (and more likely staff pet with the fact they always knew when to be on, or staff turning a blind eye to their actions in the game world and the toxic environment produced , then I agree. They seriously need to look into changing that. Also, who knows, I could be wrong but as Lyse says they didn't exactly help with nipping my suspicion, rather they watered it with their response. What's funny is I still have access to the Soh forums despite being banned, and since that event, only 2 players are active on the forums (one of them the staff pet/avatar dude and one a brand new player) - when there was once ten+. So I guess we have an avatar or a staff pet that used Soh as their playground to test the new class, killing the clan in the process."
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Post by delerak on Jun 30, 2018 16:35:49 GMT -5
for fucks sake.
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Post by ripvanwrinkle on Jul 5, 2018 21:39:22 GMT -5
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Post by pinkerdlu on Jul 6, 2018 21:05:47 GMT -5
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Post by ripvanwrinkle on Jul 6, 2018 23:52:04 GMT -5
Hey, like the meme suggests. Staff alts, amirite? To give further context to that story I came back to the game for a time and continued playing happily up until my character took a bite to the eye. But the character referred to in that post died to another orc because I had iron armor. Shot me while I was hitting up the sparring master with a bow and kept running in and out of the room while I kept trying to stem the bleeding and remove the arrow. The lesson from that particular character is that some characters, and players by extension, can be pretty cancerous to the game they're playing. There were like, three active people on the orc side at the time and instead of working together to go do stuff on the other side of the map with humans it just resulted in infighting. Anyways, more to the point - the context of that post that you so lovingly went through my history to find (quite amusing by the way) was that Rishte (a known admin that was absolutely horrible in SoI) did in fact animate that elf against that player. So while I have seen some marvelously bad interactions with staffers in my time, I have seen some equally great ones by comparison. The point of the image I posted was to point out that while staff can be responsible for some pretty heinous things sometimes, they aren't always responsible. That post you're referring to however was condemning some of the actions that I felt were negative by staff at the time in SoI. Now... In this particular instance, I feel rather confident in saying that the OP of this thread is being a little loony with his accusations, and perhaps a little too hasty to post judgement on someone that could simply be really fucking good at twinking in Armageddon, or maybe really fucking lucky with stats out of chargen. Anyways, having participated in that thread yourself pinkerdlu I find it quite amusing that you cherry-picked one of the three posts (now four with this one) I've ever made on this board out of context in response to an image made by meme generator. Sometimes staff make pretty bad decisions, and by the same measure, sometimes players do too. Oh yeah, and by the way - Rishte no longer admins for SoI.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 23:50:55 GMT -5
Haha....Because thrashing well-known, renowned warrior-class PC's of real life years invested in under an IG month of play, (to give you perspective, an IG month is 33 days give or take in real life) as a chargen warrior is just simply 'stats' right. Have some knowledge on code before you immediately go, "LOL JUST A TWINKER." No, I'd know if it was just a twinker...because I'm guilty of twinking.
There's what a player can achieve, (and easily a handful who are better grinders than I), and what staff can achieve. Go ahead and explain the code involved with a chargen PC demolishing ancient warriors with YEARS in REAL LIFE under their belt with similar stats. Emphasis on SIMILAR. Go ahead. Say it's stats. You'll sound stupid to anyone who knows that stats is only the end all see all at the very beginning, or very end...so that means, this guy had to be at the VERY END...IN UNDER AN IN GAME MONTH. Do the math, christ lmao...so loony to have suspicion garnered in light of IG events that defy code beyond some manner of staff involvement. It's not like Arm has a history of corrupt staff, staff alts, pets, and the like...it's not like the code leak doesn't show actual evidence that staff have been playing multiple alts...at once...loony, I know.
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Post by ripvanwrinkle on Jul 8, 2018 18:31:56 GMT -5
Well since you're so adamant on proving your point, why don't you post your unadulterated stats and skills for everyone to see? Posting a bunch of request tool logs and then making a bunch of accusations one way or another doesn't help your case in my opinion. It makes you come across as whining about things instead of providing any concrete evidence to suggest your character shouldn't be capable of being losing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 4:11:10 GMT -5
Well, you're the one who got defensive when you were called on your hypocrisy above...
And I already explained way earlier on that I was playing an IG year old ranger. Not RL. IG. Difference between the two. So, my stats would be irrelevant - any warrior class d-elf would surpass a ranger like that, that wasn't the point. It was their Goku-level super saiyan rise in a single game month, demolishing allll the soh heroes (of who were all warriors), uber-stat gith - not the regular kind, other long lived warriors outside of the clan - and one particularily renowned C-elf warrior for their speed who almost lost to the chargen guy by the second round of combat.
But hey. It's just about my ranger, right?
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Post by jkarr on Jul 9, 2018 6:39:15 GMT -5
Well, you're the one who got defensive when you were called on your hypocrisy above... And I already explained way earlier on that I was playing an IG year old ranger. Not RL. IG. Difference between the two. So, my stats would be irrelevant - any warrior class d-elf would surpass a ranger like that, that wasn't the point. It was their Goku-level super saiyan rise in a single game month, demolishing allll the soh heroes (of who were all warriors), uber-stat gith - not the regular kind, other long lived warriors outside of the clan - and one particularily renowned C-elf warrior for their speed who almost lost to the chargen guy by the second round of combat. But hey. It's just about my ranger, right? i thought the difference was that u were playing a rl year old ranger and not an ig year old one (which would be like 6 weeks rl) if thats not the case then u getting smashed by the 2 week old new class newbie isnt at all impossible esp with the supposed boosts they get
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Post by sergeantraul on Jul 9, 2018 8:15:26 GMT -5
Well, you're the one who got defensive when you were called on your hypocrisy above... And I already explained way earlier on that I was playing an IG year old ranger. Not RL. IG. Difference between the two. So, my stats would be irrelevant - any warrior class d-elf would surpass a ranger like that, that wasn't the point. It was their Goku-level super saiyan rise in a single game month, demolishing allll the soh heroes (of who were all warriors), uber-stat gith - not the regular kind, other long lived warriors outside of the clan - and one particularily renowned C-elf warrior for their speed who almost lost to the chargen guy by the second round of combat. But hey. It's just about my ranger, right? So show us the logs where you used the sekrit, as-of-yet-unknown player command that lets you see all of the other characters' stats and skill levels and playtimes and twinking efficiency. That you're so sure you know everything there is to know about all of these other PCs and NPCs makes me think it's more likely you're the only staff alt in the picture here.
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Post by mehtastic on Jul 9, 2018 10:10:31 GMT -5
We already know the game has always been massively unfair. It just got more subtle over the years. The legacy of staff abusing their position still exists in many forms.
All the staff cocksuckers posting in this thread are using @battlebeard's situation, which is relatively meaningless in the grand scheme of things, as a strawman to make everyone with a complaint about Arm staff look crazy. Convenient timing considering Shalooonsh was accused of stalking and harassing female players by multiple people on The MUD Connector forums a couple weeks ago.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 11:17:00 GMT -5
Well, you're the one who got defensive when you were called on your hypocrisy above... And I already explained way earlier on that I was playing an IG year old ranger. Not RL. IG. Difference between the two. So, my stats would be irrelevant - any warrior class d-elf would surpass a ranger like that, that wasn't the point. It was their Goku-level super saiyan rise in a single game month, demolishing allll the soh heroes (of who were all warriors), uber-stat gith - not the regular kind, other long lived warriors outside of the clan - and one particularily renowned C-elf warrior for their speed who almost lost to the chargen guy by the second round of combat. But hey. It's just about my ranger, right? i thought the difference was that u were playing a rl year old ranger and not an ig year old one (which would be like 6 weeks rl) if thats not the case then u getting smashed by the 2 week old new class newbie isnt at all impossible esp with the supposed boosts they get It was never about my ranger. It is possible and expected that a warrior-based class, chargen would smash the ranger. It was the sudden boost from my very irrelevant, weak ass ranger managing to give him a run for his money, to smashing ancient and trained well-statted warriors that made me go...okay, somethings not right.
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Post by jkarr on Jul 9, 2018 11:32:37 GMT -5
i thought the difference was that u were playing a rl year old ranger and not an ig year old one (which would be like 6 weeks rl) if thats not the case then u getting smashed by the 2 week old new class newbie isnt at all impossible esp with the supposed boosts they get It was never about my ranger. It is possible and expected that a warrior-based class, chargen would smash the ranger. It was the sudden boost from my very irrelevant, weak ass ranger managing to give him a run for his money, to smashing ancient and trained well-statted warriors that made me go...okay, somethings not right. no my mistake i misread and thought u char was one of the longlived ones u talked abt thats why i was confused
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 11:35:09 GMT -5
Well, you're the one who got defensive when you were called on your hypocrisy above... And I already explained way earlier on that I was playing an IG year old ranger. Not RL. IG. Difference between the two. So, my stats would be irrelevant - any warrior class d-elf would surpass a ranger like that, that wasn't the point. It was their Goku-level super saiyan rise in a single game month, demolishing allll the soh heroes (of who were all warriors), uber-stat gith - not the regular kind, other long lived warriors outside of the clan - and one particularily renowned C-elf warrior for their speed who almost lost to the chargen guy by the second round of combat. But hey. It's just about my ranger, right? So show us the logs where you used the sekrit, as-of-yet-unknown player command that lets you see all of the other characters' stats and skill levels and playtimes and twinking efficiency. That you're so sure you know everything there is to know about all of these other PCs and NPCs makes me think it's more likely you're the only staff alt in the picture here. Caught me red handed. Staff alt. I got super sekrit buttons. Or, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know wether a PC has bad, good or great stats. Look at their damage output. Look at what they are wearing/can carry. How fast they walk or run. How fast they are in combat. How much punishment they can take. How long it takes them to tire. Now take what you got there and compare it to an exceptional strength, extremely good agility, very good endurance d-elf ranger and if these people are anywhere similar to you, then guess what? Their stats are good.
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Post by ripvanwrinkle on Jul 9, 2018 11:45:50 GMT -5
Well, you're the one who got defensive when you were called on your hypocrisy above... And I already explained way earlier on that I was playing an IG year old ranger. Not RL. IG. Difference between the two. So, my stats would be irrelevant - any warrior class d-elf would surpass a ranger like that, that wasn't the point. It was their Goku-level super saiyan rise in a single game month, demolishing allll the soh heroes (of who were all warriors), uber-stat gith - not the regular kind, other long lived warriors outside of the clan - and one particularily renowned C-elf warrior for their speed who almost lost to the chargen guy by the second round of combat. But hey. It's just about my ranger, right? Like, what hypocrisy? I encourage you to read through that thread and see the very clear differences between that post and this one. It's pretty clear to me that you haven't considering you still think its hypocrisy based on a cherry-picked post that I explained earlier in this thread. Regardless, I don't play Armageddon anymore. I haven't for over a year since I first played. I quit because I found another game that I find a lot more interesting in terms of theme and mechanics. I am merely commenting on this thread because of the lunacy of it. I understand that a lot of people here are here because of legitimate grievances against them, but it gets really tiring to hear the same rhetoric over and over again without any substantial proof. You've claimed and claimed and claimed but you have only backed up your arguments with flimsy evidence and more accusations. It's my wholehearted belief that you're just trying to earn sympathy tokens from people who have actually suffered from bad staffers and their actions. You're trying to get a some kind of verification that you were wronged in some way. Frankly man I'm tired of it and this is going to be my last post in this thread. Post your stats and skills, offer some combat logs. Do something other than call shenanigans and actually show us that shenanigans took place. Otherwise you're just saying a bunch of bullshit. ... ... Guys, I got wronged by staff. They called me a stuck-up bitch in request-tool logs and other names. One of them even shagged my father. But that isn't even the worst part.... they made all of my characters generate with poor end, poor wis, poor agi, and poor str. At first I thought I was just unlucky but it kept happening over and over again. Worst of all they didn't generate with any coded skills! All I could do was walk around and emote or talk to people. But guys, this is where it truly gets horrible. They made all of my characters generate without a brain or being able to speak! I couldn't do anything. They just kept animating my nearly lifeless body drooling over the dunes every time I logged in. Fucking Arm staff guys. They got me. ..... Yeah, that's what you sound like to me without any fucking evidence to back your argument up.
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