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Post by Azerbanjani on Feb 11, 2016 16:34:24 GMT -5
Does having a good watch prevent being watched or does it just catch people watching you
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Post by sergeantraul on Feb 11, 2016 17:29:05 GMT -5
The biggest stumbling block is you will have such high agility (unless half-giant) that you stop failing stuff before it maxes.
When you get sneak to high advanced, you stop failing. Maxing it and branching hide sucks. Since you're not an idiot and you picked a subguild that gives wilderness stealth, the best way will be to weigh yourself down. Pick up a corpse in the rinth and sneak to the meat shop.
Sleight of hand on your own gear stops failing early, too. To max it, do it like steal and practice on NPCs with cloaks/bags at night.
For steal, you'll probably have to specifically target heavy weapons on belts to get your last few fails.
Also, don't be a schlub who tests sneak/hide against door guards, staff hates that. If you want feedback whether you're failing or not, use the rinthi NPCs that are scripted to respond to your presence.
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Post by Azerbanjani on Feb 11, 2016 17:33:53 GMT -5
But if I am a scrub and have no wilderness stealth...
I can sneak outside rite!
For skilling up
So you can sneak around with a twohanded weapon
What about hiding with one
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 18:59:52 GMT -5
Guys. You forget the most important aspect of a pick pocket.
They can master cooking!
Pickpocket is my favorite guild.
I killed a 60 day buff warrior with pike weapons with my pickpocket once. Granted, he didnt get to use any of his fancy weapons. Done some crazy shit that most people attribute to only ranger/warriors with my pickpocket.
Hide at 80 is not no-fail, but close enough. If you're clearly rinthi. Go nuts and use hide gear. If you're a socialite, better not.
One of the pretty good military leaders in the game right now is a pickpocket.
But fuck all that. Most and foremost. pickpockets can get their cooking to MASTER!
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Post by Azerbanjani on Feb 11, 2016 19:02:30 GMT -5
Guys. You forget the most important aspect of a pick pocket. They can master cooking! Pickpocket is my favorite guild. I killed a 60 day buff warrior with pike weapons with my pickpocket once. Granted, he didnt get to use any of his fancy weapons. Done some crazy shit that most people attribute to only ranger/warriors with my pickpocket. Hide at 80 is not no-fail, but close enough. If you're clearly rinthi. Go nuts and use hide gear. If you're a socialite, better not. One of the pretty good military leaders in the game right now is a pickpocket. But fuck all that. Most and foremost. pickpockets can get their cooking to MASTER! Tell 'bout the crazy shit? Also how'd you manage to kill the warrior? Luck and prayer? I just want to etwo something and sap the fuck out of people if I'm going to combat. If not I don't need combat, just stealth. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 19:18:28 GMT -5
Wilderness stealth is overrated on a pickpocket. Why would you leave the city? You should still take hunter, mind you, because there's just nothing else that's useful for a pickpocket and maybe some day you'll get teleported somewhere in some freak run-in with a mage; but you're not screwed if you didn't. You have no business running around in the desert, and if you ever do have to travel somewhere, you'll be riding anyway and hopefully not alone.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 20:23:38 GMT -5
Haven recently(past couple years) Played a burglar with max pick and a pickpocket with max steal, I'd rather play a burglar 100% of the time. Add on high elf agility+steal boost and the fact that Burglar is much easier to flesh out with complimentary subguilds and it almost become a no-brainer to me.
At the end of the day finding a use for your abilities beyond snatching valuables or breaking into homes will be rare. Both classes are incredibly niche, and the fact that they're split into 2 main guilds is lame as fuck.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Feb 11, 2016 20:29:50 GMT -5
Wilderness stealth on a pickpocket is like combat skills on a merchant. If you need them, your character concept is probably fucked up or you're over-preparing for situations you realistically should never find yourself in. The kind of situations where if they happened you couldn't be blamed for failing to be ready for them.
If you're playing a pickpocket, the only wasteful thing you should do is take a subclass that gives you city_hide. Unless they've changed the branching system you have to max sneak before you get it as a pickpocket. It's incredibly stupid. Stealing without being able to hide is dangerous and pickpockets (for some insane reason) have a low cap on flee.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 22:23:48 GMT -5
One of the only times an imm has bragged about my coded prowess was when Moregenes was doing something to Sharlo and was like, wow, maxed cooking, nice dude. fuck off synthesis I never branched parry with an assassin or ranger either but at least morgenes was impressed I maxed cooking... Fucking boot cooker. |
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Post by chaosisaladder on Feb 12, 2016 23:43:11 GMT -5
Pickpockets are the second easiest class to access parry with. They are also ridiculously easy to max if you grind effectively. They won't match any people with equal time investment, but if you're looking for a competent stealth fighter in a reasonable amount of time? Can't really beat a pickpocket. And if they're dual wielders? Good chance you can ambush them while possessing their smaller weapons. You likely won't be getting the maul off the two-hander's back, tho. Infinite money at little to no risk once you max steal, so thats fun.
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