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Post by king on Jan 15, 2016 13:16:53 GMT -5
to be fair, being certifiably crazy only invalidates your perspective as much as it would in a courtroom
#moreyouknow
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Post by grumble on Jan 15, 2016 14:32:44 GMT -5
to be fair, being certifiably crazy only invalidates your perspective as much as it would in a courtroom #moreyouknow Actually, I just won my disability settlement... representing myself. I'm not sure how to feel about it, but having some funds for a change will be nice.
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Post by dcdc on Jan 15, 2016 14:38:31 GMT -5
Ever read Catch-22? By Joseph Heller?
Sounds like that situation in reverse.
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Post by grumble on Jan 15, 2016 14:53:04 GMT -5
It, wasn't an easy struggle. Legal representitives were refusing to represent me on the grounds they didn't think they could win my case. I had some help when I first applied, and got denied, three times, from a non-profit meant to help the homeless, who, fucked shit up and left shit out. The judge concluded, after reviewing the documents available, that the evidence was consistent over a period of five years, and backed up by evidence going back over a decade. Thank fuck I got someone reasonable, and not someone simply pushing a political agenda.
EDIT: Thing was, taking matters into my own hands and telling the judge, "No, your honor, that's incorrect, in that there's actually other documented issues running in tandem with the primary concern.", he looked up, asked me what issues, scheduled some appointments for me, and took a good deal of time reviewing the information before calling me in another time, he'd brought in a witness, a doctor, who was not personally familiar with the situation, but had access to the records, and she testified that "No, absolutely not, there's not a job on the market this man could do, your honor."
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punished ppurg
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Post by punished ppurg on Jan 15, 2016 14:56:14 GMT -5
You need all the help you can get, my friend. :^)
But really let's see some request logs if you don't mind. If you don't want to share, I understand.
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Post by grumble on Jan 15, 2016 14:58:31 GMT -5
But, yet again, dealing with the legal representitives was like dealing with the slimey lawyer in Franz Kafka's "The Trial".
EDIT: I'm like a cheesy Dean Koontz villain whose only purpose in life is to shit all over your Armageddon plots. I now have federal funding, look out, fuckers!
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Post by grumble on Jan 15, 2016 16:23:25 GMT -5
I think determinism is partly to blame. Determinism works very well with two body problems, which is fucking fantastic and amazing, until you pause and realize there are NO two body problems and that the universe is a very complex, weird place with an unknowable amount of external influences, at which point, determinism rapidly breaks down into chaos, which is why statistics, instead of absolute certainties, are so popular with weather people.
You see, the mass indoctrination really began a short while after the industrial revolution. We thought, well, if streamlining things worked so well for the industry, then it will work for other aspects of society, and the space-race is where it kicked into full gear and got applied to the educational system. I mean, it's great and all for producing robotic cogs that stay in their lane and do what they're told, but what of the rest of us? We, too, can serve a purpose, but this culture shuts us out entirely because it's not streamlined enough to make sense, and the words "just trust me on this" are, admittedly quite wisely, questionable at best.
There are some things that simply shouldn't be streamlined, Eugenics is an example of this, which I really won't bother to go into but if you familiarize yourself with the concept, its history, and current theories on canine breeding you'll start to see this was a fuck-up of magnificent proportions. I won't pretend to be fully educated on the subject, but I will say I understand enough to confidently assert that it's my personal perspective that it should be tossed in the trashcan.
Part of the problem is the unwillingness to accept that two seemingly opposing perspectives can be equally true, because thinking that way will result in a plethora of brain farts, I'm assuming, and the culture of efficiencey says brain farts are a bad idea, now get back to work you slack-jawed idiot and wear that plastic smile. A historical example? The Newton/Liebniz conflict, which, had they been able to come to an agreement and work together on something, would have advanced things rapidly. Instead, my limited understanding is it resulted in a series of bitter clashes and conflicts, and it's only now being understood that, you know, maybe Liebniz was also right about some things. But who gives a fuck about history, or calculus for that matter, when we can take what's spoon-fed to us and spout it back out as if it were absolutely factual, and attack other perspectives, invalidating them with a simple statement, "Yeah, but you're crazy so you're wrong. The TV told me so, TVs don't lie."
EDIT: My personal favorite example to point to of where efforts at efficiencey turn innefficient, is when calculating routes. Conventional wisdom suggests that the shortest distance between two points is a straight line, but personal experience dictates that calculating a route in a straight line will result in slamming into buildings and oncoming traffic, which will result in never getting to the store, which results in the paradox of the shortest distance between two points is NOT a straight line. Nevermind the surface of the earth is fucking curved and littered with irregularities, so there are no straight lines.
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punished ppurg
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Post by punished ppurg on Jan 15, 2016 17:06:18 GMT -5
Can you stay on topic please. There's the not-game forum you can post all that in~
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Post by grumble on Jan 15, 2016 17:57:02 GMT -5
Can you stay on topic please. There's the not-game forum you can post all that in~ If you read it closely, it's totally relevant. .brainflex
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Post by BitterFlashback on Jan 16, 2016 9:24:27 GMT -5
Can you stay on topic please. There's the not-game forum you can post all that in~ If you read it closely, it's totally relevant. .brainflex Yeah, punished ppurg, get with the fucking program. He said that the OP's account was locked because of Schrodinger's deterministic animal husbandry mobius strip.
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Post by grumble on Jan 16, 2016 12:11:05 GMT -5
See? Bitter knows what I'm talking about. Also, space-nazis are controlling the minds of the elite, slowly manipulating politics and wealth distribution, with the end goal of staging a real-life Mortal Kombat tournament in the house of congress for their own amusement. But that's not really related to OP's account getting locked.
EDIT: And on that day C-span will experience a huge boost in ratings.
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Post by grumble on Jan 16, 2016 12:47:09 GMT -5
I suppose some explanation is in order, the long-winded rant was a response to Pinkerdlu's seeming invalidation of my perspective "on the grounds that I'm crazy" (the previous post is satirical btw), I'm a little defensive about that, but not as much as I once was, and felt the need to explain where I think the issues began. I don't think the course was wrong, so much as it has had effects on the way that society has developed. I've had a good deal of incentive to try and find out what's happening to me and why, as I've taken a lot of shit from people and the alternative to not understanding why is to be even more of a shit back, which would be unproductive. This process has effected my thought patterns and communication process, and so it's present in a rather disjointed form that might not, at first glance, make a whole lot of sense. In this way, it's also semi-relevant to the quantity of plots or lack therof, as well as to the original topic.
I suppose you could actually continue to use the same logic "because Grumble's crazy" to dismiss this, the piece of shit rant I typed up in three minutes without bothering to re-read, and anything else I say, but that would be wrong, although, yes, careful skepticism is advised.
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