jkarr
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Post by jkarr on Aug 2, 2015 22:52:57 GMT -5
yup u cant block what u cant see. do u think any whirans had a problem getting past ppl that couldnt scan, there u go
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punished ppurg
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Post by punished ppurg on Aug 3, 2015 0:09:52 GMT -5
You can't block what you can't see, but you can be blocked by something you can't see.
Also, scan is vs hide. Sneak is a listen check. NPC guards detect the hide, which is what matters.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 8:22:29 GMT -5
Pretty sure it's just something they're set to do even though it makes almost no difference. Unless these NPCs are given 90 scan, it's pointless as hide maxes out so easily. Think of it as a shitty emote they do more than any real counter to stealth. By and large, NPCs are completely helpless against succesful hiding. Even if their scan did work, the way that skill functions, you could just hit 'east' again and get past. Getting stopped by a guard doesn't take you out of stealth.
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Post by Procrastination on Aug 3, 2015 8:45:50 GMT -5
My next character needs to be an assassin guard just to guard exits in the Red's Retreat for fun.
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Post by Amos's Boots on Aug 3, 2015 21:24:44 GMT -5
My next character needs to be an assassin guard just to guard exits in the Red's Retreat for fun. is it even possible to guard while hidden?
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jkarr
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Post by jkarr on Aug 3, 2015 22:37:37 GMT -5
lol probly not anymore after this thread
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Post by Prime Minister Sinister on Aug 4, 2015 2:58:44 GMT -5
My next character needs to be an assassin guard just to guard exits in the Red's Retreat for fun. is it even possible to guard while hidden? It is. One of the muggers on Hathor's guards the east exit and is hidden. Doesn't even break hide when he blocks you-- which, come to find out, wishing up an inquiry on how submitting a bug report that hide isn't broken after a successful guard action nets you a "you don't know what that guy is capable of" staff message, as if he's some spoopy magicker or something that never uses spells or anything in combat.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 19:18:50 GMT -5
I've met some PCs that use scan on a timer too lmao.
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Post by Prime Minister Sinister on Aug 13, 2015 18:11:48 GMT -5
It is. One of the muggers on Hathor's guards the east exit and is hidden. Doesn't even break hide when he blocks you-- which, come to find out, wishing up an inquiry on how submitting a bug report that hide isn't broken after a successful guard action nets you a "you don't know what that guy is capable of" staff message, as if he's some spoopy magicker or something that never uses spells or anything in combat. Lol.... pretty sure he's just broken and the staff refuse to put time into repairing it. Last time I played he was a relatively weak dwarf mugger. Nah man, -clearly- he's a dwarven mindbender that squanders his talents on being really bad at petty mugging.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2015 10:30:48 GMT -5
Nuthin wurth fixin.
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Post by Procrastination on Aug 15, 2015 21:08:38 GMT -5
There are plenty of NPC guards that scan, and their scan is functional at all of the mid journeyman- mid advanced easily. If you're wearing hide/sneak gear you can boost your hide from advanced all the way up the distance to master basically so that's why there's this huge illusion. Take your hide (advanced) person up to them naked and they will see you sometimes. Your weight also heavily affects your ability to hide/sneak. At the very least, weighing to manageable will get you seen by them and you can twink up. You ask why they do it? It's so that you can twink(or be caught if you're a low level sneaky doing things you shouldn't while you're wanted). Which is one of the largest complaints of sneaky classes(IE: I can't twink sneak/hide to complete master without a friend ranger and OOC communication; which is a lie).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2015 20:33:42 GMT -5
There was once a time when that dwarf could see 'everything' regardless of invis, hide, ethereal, etc. So if you walked into the room and are visible yourself, but have 1 hidden sneaky shadowing you, 1 invis mage following you, 1 shadowwalking psi coming after you, and 1 drovian shadow stalking you, the dwarf would come out of hiding and say his mugging line at you 5 times in a row.
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Post by bastilleangel on Aug 20, 2015 11:15:56 GMT -5
Nah man, -clearly- he's a dwarven mindbender that squanders his talents on being really bad at petty mugging. Yes, how could I have been so wrong for so long?
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