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Post by nyrsucks on Jun 26, 2015 12:11:45 GMT -5
I am not too surprised that my disagreement with other people on this forum about certain things would flag me as a member of Armageddon staff. It is human nature to assume that minority dissent within a group implies belonging to another group. However, I am not staff. I found this board because I do actually disagree with Armageddon staff and agree with you all on a number of things. Less obscurity of basic code information, faster improvement of Arm's code and eliminating staff rudeness from an otherwise polite player conversation are all things I support. I am not going to support people who tell one sided, falsified stories and post logs that can easily be edited to support a claim. I'm not going to support people who make spurious claims about their interactions with staff in real life, and if anyone cares to look back when Kronibas was ranting they will see I agreed with this community on their view of him. I will say this: by blocking out dissenting voices, you risk turning this board into exactly what you hate about Armageddon's community, with the exception of that community being pro-Armageddon. Without dissenting voices, this place would be a cliquish echo chamber full of sycophants who blindly support each other based on their hatred for Armageddon staff. What I have seen is a human mixture of attitudes from staff, an effort from them to do better that is held back by some level of self-sabotage that happens in the rare instances when they are rude to players without provocation. I am not going to defend myself further than that. Frankly, I don't give a shit about "disagreement" or your "dissenting" voice. You basically just popped on, lied about the OP, then complained when he backed up his statements with a log? Why should anyone respect you? Here, I've highlighted in your first post about the incidents where you were throwing insults or lied. If that's how you want to open up dialogue and then demand everyone be nice to you? Fuck you. I think you meant this about you. |
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Post by lyse on Jun 26, 2015 12:38:23 GMT -5
Here's the board I know and love!
I don't think they would be UN-welcome, just that they'd get called out on a lot of things and have no recourse to delete stuff. In other words, no home court advantage.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 12:41:42 GMT -5
Routinely claims to know the truth about events brought up here but definitely isn't a staff member or associated (e.g. married, besties?) with one, no sir. Just happens to ostensibly know not only the details of scenarios involving small amounts of characters but also the real-time sequence of said event. I suppose that has to mean that they were one of the like five PCs present.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 12:54:09 GMT -5
 jcarter helped me track down this police sketch of reasonable. I apologize for the continued privacy violations but some people did say he looked eerily familiar and wanted to see it posted. |
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Post by punished ppurg on Jun 26, 2015 12:55:23 GMT -5
No
I don't want no scrab
A scrab is a guy who can't get no love from me
Hanging out the proxified side of his staffer's ride
Trying to lie to me
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Post by nyrsucks on Jun 26, 2015 12:58:10 GMT -5
Hey prince that's not cool. He may be a staff apologist, liar, and self-made victim but no one deserves to have their picture outed like that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 13:00:04 GMT -5
It's not groveling enough to be them. Needs to be pictured kissing Nyr's feet.
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Post by nyrsucks on Jun 26, 2015 13:16:00 GMT -5
To be fair I also found a picture of prince.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 13:21:05 GMT -5
Oh yeah, well I found a picture of nyrsucks.  |
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Post by Procrastination on Jun 26, 2015 13:23:01 GMT -5
*begins to golf clap slowly*
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Post by sirra on Jun 26, 2015 13:29:07 GMT -5
I'd rather everyone was treated the way that we wish we were treated by them. If someone wants to white-knight, let them. It's a very small and niche community, and I'm sure that roughly 95% of the people can see through it. It just makes us look like an echo chamber if we chase people away. Honestly, even disagreeing with reasonable, all the attention paid to discovering his true identity just made this forum come off worse, than if we'd just refuted his arguments (which myself and others did at length) and moved on. People deserve their privacy. i literally clicked a button on an internet forum that compares IP addresses and pops up if someone is posting from a known spammer link (i.e. generally a proxy) because people have sockpuppetted here before. am i not allowed to do this now? can you or reasonable please explain to me the invasion of 'privacy' here or how i was "collecting personal info" (lol) as reasonable put it? You can do whatever you like. I just think it's a distraction, and probably not worth drawing attention to unless someone is being loudly and obviously malevolent. The fact that this thread even came into existence, and people are discussing it, is proof enough that it's drawn attention away from Asan's very real and legitimate complaints. |
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Post by jcarter on Jun 26, 2015 17:45:34 GMT -5
i literally clicked a button on an internet forum that compares IP addresses and pops up if someone is posting from a known spammer link (i.e. generally a proxy) because people have sockpuppetted here before. am i not allowed to do this now? can you or reasonable please explain to me the invasion of 'privacy' here or how i was "collecting personal info" (lol) as reasonable put it? You can do whatever you like. I just think it's a distraction, and probably not worth drawing attention to unless someone is being loudly and obviously malevolent. The fact that this thread even came into existence, and people are discussing it, is proof enough that it's drawn attention away from Asan's very real and legitimate complaints. i mentioned it once in chat after seeing reasonable's post. this thread was, iirc, posted before i even mentioned it in chat. tbh this cycle always happens. someone regs, has an account mostly devoted to being contrarian with a side of salty, then flips out when other poster disagree with them. i think people come here with the expectation that this is going to be like GDB and they can post snarky, baiting comments with impunity because if someone talks trash back to them they'll be protected by the Mods From Above. then they stomp off declaring how this place is becoming an echo chamber/full of jcarter's bootlickers/just angry nerds with a hint of martyr complex, as if they descended from the heavens of Armageddon MUD to save us with high-quality posting that quickly devolves into sticking fingers in the ears and yelling about how it's always the player's fault. |
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Post by BitterFlashback on Jun 26, 2015 18:11:05 GMT -5
It's looking like something got split out of this thread (or this thread got derailed because, hey, it's active, let's post anywhere). Since I have little idea why we jumped to a discussion about how Adolf jcarter seeing a non-identifying piece of information proves that he is history's greatest monster, and re-rail the thread instead.
Are they not welcome? I hope see more ARM IMMs to be part of this forum and join conversations. This board would be awesome place to discuss and swear one and other. In that militia sergeant thread, one user is accused of being a staff member. Like that's some crime, or makes one's words worthless. I really would like to read story from other side's view. Like any other platform, this forum has more then enough people tend to misinterpret, ignore or plainly lie to prove their own point. Anyway, I am not sure if they are welcome to this board or not, but I believe their voices would be great addition and.. Hobby discussions are more fun when done with insults and beer. I'm kind of surprised nobody has mentioned this, but the board reaction would depend on the imm. Nyr would die in a fire. Meanwhile, Morgenes would probably get an extremely positive reaction from everyone, except maybe for topkekm8s when he explains how to pronounce "Morgenes". Sanvean would get a mixed reaction... mostly-positive I think (including myself as pro-San). I don't know of any present storytellers in poor standing with this forum. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 18:13:41 GMT -5
I don't know of any present storytellers in poor standing with this forum. Maybe Cavaticus, now that Asan has aired his story? |
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Post by BitterFlashback on Jun 26, 2015 18:15:44 GMT -5
I don't know of any present storytellers in poor standing with this forum. Maybe Cavaticus, now that Asan has aired his story? Oh, I just started reading that. Ridiculous. |
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