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Post by cruelcore on Apr 8, 2013 15:05:40 GMT -5
Yo - I've heard from someone that once you've managed to max a character's offensive/defensive+skills that stats pretty much become meaningless. That they're only really useful for the early game.
How true is that? Is it safe to call him a bullshitter?
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Post by yoashi on Apr 8, 2013 16:20:33 GMT -5
The early game, and the super late game, stats are very important when it comes to combat.
But most of the game takes place in the extended mid-game, so for the majority of your play, skills tend to trump. Even if you somehow manage to hit the still-really-high caps on guild-cap O/D, your stats will play a role in attack speed, damage, and other things.
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Post by cruelcore on Apr 8, 2013 17:27:50 GMT -5
Even if you somehow manage to hit the still-really-high caps on guild-cap O/D, your stats will play a role in attack speed, damage, and other things. How much so? Assuming two characters hit their cap O/D - one with all around poor stats and the other with all around exceptionals, with the difference between the two be easily noticeable? |
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Post by yoashi on Apr 8, 2013 17:57:51 GMT -5
EASILY noticeable? With that much disparity in stats, yeah. The damage will be very noticeable in particular. Attack speed and otherwise, not as much. But if you're a max O/D warrior, fighting a max O/D warrior, and you have 30 less health? You're going to feel it.
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Post by armqwerty on Apr 13, 2013 21:54:39 GMT -5
Two dwarf warriors with maxed off/def meet at Luirs fighting Pits. Fight ends in one round, as one of the opponents is KOd.
To my great disappointment and angst, stats matter incredibly so. The only stat that I believe is not "too" relevant is wisdom. Or to be exact, it is relevant, but is often trumped by skills once they get high enough. So wisdom as least important (in my opinion), followed by agility, then endurance, and strength is probably most important.
That changes if you mean to play differently though of course.
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Post by lulz on Apr 14, 2013 0:25:02 GMT -5
Strength is the most important, because it determines whether you hit your target or not (I remember seeing this mentioned on the GDB: I believe this was from a post of X-D when staff were commenting on a thread. I would assume that offense is not the only thing that determines whether you land a strike or not, though of course I could be wrong).
Agility is the second most important, because it determines how many chances you get to hit your target.
Endurance for me is the third most important, because it determines how much damage your own character can soak up before they fall.
Wisdom is only important in the beginning of your character's career or if you're a mage IMO.
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Post by cruelcore on Apr 18, 2013 15:11:55 GMT -5
How much does age affect your stats?
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Post by lulz on Apr 19, 2013 5:27:45 GMT -5
How much does age affect your stats? Short answer: A lot Younger pcs are weaker, less intelligent and less sturdy. Older pcs are generally stronger, smarter and hardier. |
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Post by cruelcore on Apr 20, 2013 22:26:28 GMT -5
What's the average range for a human? 90-120 hp/str ish?
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Post by lulz on Apr 21, 2013 3:15:52 GMT -5
Hp doesn't usually get -that- high I think.
Strength all depends on the age of your character. I normally rolled g-vg though.
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Post by armqwerty on Apr 22, 2013 0:53:47 GMT -5
I believe the guild affects hp as well. My highest for a human was 123 hp, non warrior. With exceptional endurance. I imagine a human warrior with AI endurance can go as high as 128 hp?
For an assassin, getting 100-108 hp, I would consider very lucky.
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Post by lulz on Apr 22, 2013 22:20:54 GMT -5
Yeah good point about the guild affecting your stats as well. That certainly seems to be the case, as most of my assassins in the past had sub 100s, even for humans. Good luck getting 100+ on an elf...
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Post by mood on May 4, 2013 2:54:46 GMT -5
I've had human warriors, exceptional endurance, with 130+ HP.
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