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Post by lyse on Apr 30, 2015 13:07:29 GMT -5
Ok here's a good one. I'm pretty sure you have a random chance to pick up a language just by hearing someone speak in it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong about that. My question is, how do you skill it up? Do you have to hear more of it? Do you have to use it? Or is it a combination of the two?
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Post by julio on Apr 30, 2015 13:14:50 GMT -5
I'm not sure how the skill works. But I know it has a direct relationship to how many times you hear it spoken by talk or say. It's not a random chance but just an accumulation. It is not subject to skill timers because I've learned languages/accents during RPTs with thousands of says/talks/shouts etc...
Lets say to learn allundean, a language you never heard before, you need to listen to it 1500 times. If you're wisdom is really good maybe it will only take 1000-800 times. If you're a subguild Bard + great wisdom maybe it will be 500-300 times.
I'm not entirely wisdom plays into it now that I think about it. I'd be curious to hear what others' experiences are with languages.
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Post by sirra on Apr 30, 2015 13:15:01 GMT -5
Ok here's a good one. I'm pretty sure you have a random chance to pick up a language just by hearing someone speak in it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong about that. My question is, how do you skill it up? Do you have to hear more of it? Do you have to use it? Or is it a combination of the two? You have a random chance of learning it just from hearing it. (I've heard of a HG guard to a templar learning like every language in the known world, including templar talk). I think it's mostly raised from hearing others speak it. EDIT: As a delf, I've learned sirihish from npc merchants.  |
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Post by julio on Apr 30, 2015 13:19:53 GMT -5
Shoot sirra, maybe I'm just totally wrong then.
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Post by lyse on Apr 30, 2015 13:21:30 GMT -5
Hmm, thats interesting. I thought it was random because I picked up a "rare" language just from hearing an npc say something a couple times. So now Im looking at my sheet wondering how the hell am I going to raise it?
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Post by julio on Apr 30, 2015 13:22:45 GMT -5
Once you have the skill, listening doens't make it better. Only speaking it does. Or at least that's what I think. I may be wrong.
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Post by sirra on Apr 30, 2015 13:26:37 GMT -5
Shoot sirra, maybe I'm just totally wrong then. You're not totally wrong. I just know it's initially completely batshit random, and is a fairly tiny percentage chance (modified by wisdom and linguist subguild). Afterwards, it gets raised by hearing it spoken, not by speaking it. I assert this because I've picked up accents and languages from NPC merchants multiple times, and I was never able to get better at the language myself from speaking it over and over. It only got better when I heard it. And again, I know a player whose half-giant got the templar language (forget what it's called) the first time they heard it. In the past, there's also been situations where I've been urged, or had to urge someone else to speak a language I already had, to get better at it, as my using it didn't do anything to raise it. This was because all the Red Fangs wanted sirihish for obvious nefarious reasons. |
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Post by lyse on Apr 30, 2015 13:28:59 GMT -5
Once you have the skill, listening doens't make it better. Only speaking it does. Or at least that's what I think. I may be wrong. I know thats how it works in real life for sure. I guess I'll play around with it. |
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Post by julio on Apr 30, 2015 13:33:18 GMT -5
I once ran across some red fangs.... I gave them some pieces of meat and they left me alone. Was an awesome RP experience out near the thorn lands years ago.
It was helpful they knew Sirihish!
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Post by mekillot on Apr 30, 2015 14:04:54 GMT -5
You have a % chance based off various factors to have a language added to your skills at 1-3%.
You roll for this every time you hear the language, without having it.
Once you have a language you get better at it by hearing people who speak it better then you (and failing one of the letters) , and it has a skill timer like every skill.
Accents are hidden skills that raise like every other skill. They pop once they break a certain point, or maybe at 100.
The factors for the %chance being the bard subguild/wisdom/knowing a like-language.
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