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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 20:33:00 GMT -5
I've no problem, one way or the other. I like what RP it can offer, but I think it is important for people to recall that their enforcing of a place in the world should be more evenhanded. Red Fangs were curbstormped, ostensibly, on staff side, for acting too big. Atrium is a product of a MINOR (not Major, ala Kadius/Salarr/Nenyuk/Kurac) MERCHANT (not noble) house. And no one who is an EMPLOYEE of said MINOR house should be given gravity/power above that of a noble/templar. No one. Which says to me, that the enforcement of the documentation is out of step for the in game reality of the clan. Which means it's about as beneficial as the Akai Sjir. It has a place that can offer roleplay, and some neat niche things, but it is ultimately out of step with objective IC reality in an overtly detrimental way. Why? Good old fashioned favortism. When is it not, after all?
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julio
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Post by julio on Apr 29, 2015 23:47:18 GMT -5
I've no problem, one way or the other. I like what RP it can offer, but I think it is important for people to recall that their enforcing of a place in the world should be more evenhanded. Red Fangs were curbstormped, ostensibly, on staff side, for acting too big. Atrium is a product of a MINOR (not Major, ala Kadius/Salarr/Nenyuk/Kurac) MERCHANT (not noble) house. And no one who is an EMPLOYEE of said MINOR house should be given gravity/power above that of a noble/templar. No one. Which says to me, that the enforcement of the documentation is out of step for the in game reality of the clan. Which means it's about as beneficial as the Akai Sjir. It has a place that can offer roleplay, and some neat niche things, but it is ultimately out of step with objective IC reality in an overtly detrimental way. Why? Good old fashioned favortism. When is it not, after all? I like, basically all, your posts. I agree. |
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Post by visiblyupsetbyyou on Apr 30, 2015 0:49:05 GMT -5
I wish I was good enough at emoting to fuck f-mes. their analogies and euphemisms are on another level entirely, and I end up feeling like I'm the only one masturbating to the scene
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Lizzie
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Post by Lizzie on Apr 30, 2015 0:54:01 GMT -5
well shit wtf is the point of pretending to be lizzie if its not going to get her banned
im done with this board its boring now
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Post by visiblyupsetbyyou on Apr 30, 2015 0:58:04 GMT -5
Bored? mby we practice our mudsex emoting:
glides his glistening staff of seduction into your velvet sheath, inflicting horrendous damage
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2015 2:07:17 GMT -5
The Atrium is a good introduction to the game for that brand of player who has no interest in the more code-centric stuff. We all know the type, they're the ones who never really do anything and aren't creative enough to accomplish anything. They're the players who later become Kadius merchants and Fale nobles and shit like that. There's no harm in giving them a place in the game where they can have some sort of purpose. It's not like they're removed from some other area of the game where they'll be missed, nor does it take up enough players to be relevant in any zero sum population sense.
The Atrium also props up the otherwise almost completely hollow and pointless role of social noble, giving them some platform on which to exert that intangible social power that 90% of the playerbase doesn't give a flying fuck about. It's a harmless thing that caters to a section of the playerbase that isn't going to be missed, and wouldn't be doing anything more valuable had the Atrium not existed.
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julio
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Post by julio on Apr 30, 2015 9:33:18 GMT -5
I think there is legitimate value to the atrium. A noble will send a sponsored character through, spend 1000 sid + spend time mud sexing that player. And while it is hard to just out and out PK the noble, it is EASY to PK his pet.
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mood
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Post by mood on May 4, 2015 2:45:11 GMT -5
i feel like all aides should have to go through atrium training and i also think that the atrium should be a dog-eat-dog world where you smile at your tea partner shortly before they drink the poisoned tea. only so many aide jobs, after all. find some way to foster competition between peers.
the atrium fits perfectly with allanak. allanak is a brutal place, but along with the blood and dust there are displays of wealth which would make a tuluki noble cringe. the upper class is all about opulence; every action they take is calculated to display to the world how rich and powerful they are. this is why allanaki nobles wear garments so ridiculous that they can't move around in them; it proves that they are wealthy enough to be carried around by slaves all day.
and it only makes sense that they wouldn't just pick up filthy commoners off the streets to serve their tables or w/e. they probably wouldn't even know which side you serve from, and which side you collect dishes from. can you imagine how much lord fale would laugh???
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mood
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Post by mood on May 4, 2015 2:52:36 GMT -5
The Atrium is a good introduction to the game for that brand of player who has no interest in the more code-centric stuff. We all know the type, they're the ones who never really do anything and aren't creative enough to accomplish anything. They're the players who later become Kadius merchants and Fale nobles and shit like that. There's no harm in giving them a place in the game where they can have some sort of purpose. It's not like they're removed from some other area of the game where they'll be missed, nor does it take up enough players to be relevant in any zero sum population sense. The Atrium also props up the otherwise almost completely hollow and pointless role of social noble, giving them some platform on which to exert that intangible social power that 90% of the playerbase doesn't give a flying fuck about. It's a harmless thing that caters to a section of the playerbase that isn't going to be missed, and wouldn't be doing anything more valuable had the Atrium not existed. furthermore, this. basically anything that can be done to support social political roles in allanak, especially post-tulukalypse, needs to be done. |
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Post by julio on May 4, 2015 15:44:51 GMT -5
Tulukalypse.... That made me happy. Seeing that.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 16:42:31 GMT -5
The Atrium is a good introduction to the game for that brand of player who has no interest in the more code-centric stuff. We all know the type, they're the ones who never really do anything and aren't creative enough to accomplish anything. They're the players who later become Kadius merchants and Fale nobles and shit like that. There's no harm in giving them a place in the game where they can have some sort of purpose. It's not like they're removed from some other area of the game where they'll be missed, nor does it take up enough players to be relevant in any zero sum population sense. The Atrium also props up the otherwise almost completely hollow and pointless role of social noble, giving them some platform on which to exert that intangible social power that 90% of the playerbase doesn't give a flying fuck about. It's a harmless thing that caters to a section of the playerbase that isn't going to be missed, and wouldn't be doing anything more valuable had the Atrium not existed. I don't play in the Atrium, really, but this kind of stung a bit because I feel like I am one of those players, even though I don't want to be. |
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Post by my2sids on May 4, 2015 19:44:52 GMT -5
I see the Atrium as a great addition to Allanak and see lots of interesting things happening around it already. Which, if you had told me that 2 years ago, I would have lol'd.
I also see some newish players ending up in the Atrium. Some of which really pour their heart into roleplay and I'm happy to have them. If they "can't" play hard ass Bynners, oh well. They're still contributing to the politics.
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malkeninthemiddle
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Post by malkeninthemiddle on May 4, 2015 20:18:59 GMT -5
It was Talia's baby when they re-opened it and Talia has the rare talent of turning anything mundane and boring into something interesting and worth paying attention to.
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Jeshin
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Post by Jeshin on May 4, 2015 20:22:02 GMT -5
The atrium has been discussed so much in the thread about me that I'm going to have to try and enter with my tribal at this point.
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alaire
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Post by alaire on May 4, 2015 20:44:17 GMT -5
Having somewhat (I mean since I quit most recently) played an Aide, I feel like forcing nobles to enter their people into the Atrium in some way is a sad way to make the Atrium useful. I feel like I was very useful without it, and that the person before me was even more useful, and they didn't enter the Atrium either... 'course it was closed when I was playing.
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