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Apr 27, 2015 15:19:15 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 15:19:15 GMT -5
who hatez him?
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Apr 27, 2015 15:29:41 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 15:29:41 GMT -5
Not really that helpful
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 15:33:33 GMT -5
For some reason I am instantly reminded of a bunch of dudes on a football field trying to goad people into a fight.
I am sorta glad that he is here and, unlike a lot of people, using his GDB forum name - I think more people should do that - but on the other hand, I also feel as though people doing as he is will censor themselves heavily out of fear of retaliation or only try to poke holes in what is being said here instead of actually contributing. It's a valid concern, at any rate.
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Post by sirra on Apr 27, 2015 15:36:27 GMT -5
I don't think he's done anything to deserve getting singled out like this. He's obviously participating here, and engaging in discussions at some risk to himself. He's not just trolling us (like some are).
People always say they want staff to come here and engage with us (I actually, could care less if they do or not, because at this point, actions speak louder). But if we shit on anyone we recognize from the GDB that just proves why they shouldn't.
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Post by Prime Minister Sinister on Apr 27, 2015 15:36:41 GMT -5
this is silly
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Apr 27, 2015 15:45:06 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by pinkerdlu on Apr 27, 2015 15:45:06 GMT -5
Yeah delete this shit thread and all the grumble-esque troll accounts. Need some original, intelligent mofos in here
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Post by Jeshin on Apr 27, 2015 16:17:03 GMT -5
We don't really moderate here except I think we deleted a post once for racism. Even the terrible terrible pedophila thread was only locked. This thread shall exist for time in memorial or until a server is wiped.
EDIT - Just do what we should have done with the pedo thread and don't respond to it until it falls off the front page of the sub-forum. Ta-da.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 18:16:40 GMT -5
I don't think he's done anything to deserve getting singled out like this. Hey man , can't I just get my minute in the spotlight without you trying to ruin everything?  Spartibas: I've been pretty paranoid. Stopped myself from making quite a few posts and even went back and edited one of them. So yeah, I can understand that fear, but I can promise I'm not here just to be negative or contrary. I'd like to think most of my own fears are unfounded at this point about sharing. I assume the cat is already out of the bag in most staff minds when it is related to code information, but you can never be too sure. I suppose I could ask them but I'd assume I'd get a flat "We don't want you discussing anything IC or mechanics related" sort of response, becuase that's what their rules and policy are. In any case I tried to appeal to staff to make code information open and free on the GDB and in documentation, and even gave them some good excuse for doing it: control over its spread, incredibly helpful to newbies. But they don't seem to agree. Maybe its for the best that it's all going to be here, out of their control. For now though, I'm being cautious. |
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Apr 27, 2015 20:44:14 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 20:44:14 GMT -5
bro rgs askd 2 make poll so i make poll
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Apr 27, 2015 20:54:34 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 20:54:34 GMT -5
I just quickly read through the posts he made in the past few days. "Very" quickly, so I'm not going to quote anything in great detail. Either way, none of them really struck me as too idiotic. Is he here to argue other people's points, whether arguing reasonably, or unreasonably? Yes. He's here to Argue. Is that really a terrible thing? Is it really a terrible thing that there is a person out there who takes your written word and tries his or hers best to dismantle it with at least 'some' semblance of tied in sentences? I dont really see that as terrible.
If he was spamming idiocy and just cussed everyone out, I'd say ban him. If he was trying to provoke others into revealing themselves, I'd say that's bad form. If he was talking like Grumble I'd say ... KILL HIM.
But since he's not doing any of these, I'd say ... meh.
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Apr 28, 2015 0:28:10 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 0:28:10 GMT -5
It is not wrong to argue. It's also not wrong to have a mindset that is completely against this board... Or maybe it is.
When people take parts of this board and use it to represent the whole, that is wrong and counterproductive, if you ask me. I really don't think he's trying to do this. Having said that, I think it is only natural for people to have reservations, especially considering the current atmosphere. Automatic trust in situations like that is not really wise to bestow, so any apprehension in regards to motivations should be totally understandable.
Also, like I mentioned earlier today, you do not see me going to the GDB just to argue with people, and if I did, it would not be under an alias. Why am I not doing that? Because really, aside from being automatically banned, I don't think it would do much. So, I am glad that people can come here and, while still maybe being viewed with apprehension, still be able to say their piece.
It wouldn't be like that on ArmageddonMUD because the current staff there seem to believe that the prohibition of ideas is OK when really, it's not.
Ask Edward Snowden.
I am amazed at how many people are endeared to a fossilizing mentality - the way Arm was for a long time - that actively works against thinking for yourself and questioning authority. I mean, come the fuck on... It is 2015. Wake up and step out of the Stone Age and into an age where information, questions, and the refusal to endure power mongers is slowly but surely becoming par for the course in both meat space and online.
The world is changing and Armageddon must change with it. Personally, I believe changes to core rules will help facilitate this.
but what do I know? I am just some mentally ill, drug addicted jock... Right?
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Post by jesantu on Apr 28, 2015 2:39:57 GMT -5
It isn't that I support hiding behind anonymity as a general rule but the trouble with posting as your original gdb self is that everyone will know you are automatically self-censored, and that immediately throws anything you have to say into question.
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Apr 28, 2015 11:53:37 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 11:53:37 GMT -5
It isn't that I support hiding behind anonymity as a general rule but the trouble with posting as your original gdb self is that everyone will know you are automatically self-censored, and that immediately throws anything you have to say into question. Censoring oneself doesn't put what I say into question. Being unable to say certain things doesn't suddenly mean I have to say the wrong things. It just mean I can't say everything I'd like to. |
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Apr 28, 2015 12:52:24 GMT -5
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Post by jkarr on Apr 28, 2015 12:52:24 GMT -5
It isn't that I support hiding behind anonymity as a general rule but the trouble with posting as your original gdb self is that everyone will know you are automatically self-censored, and that immediately throws anything you have to say into question. Censoring oneself doesn't put what I say into question. yes it does because nothing u say will be said w/o going thru the 'this wont put my account/staffs view of me in jeopardy' filter which means no one can assume ur personal selfinterst isnt guiding ur responses nice try tho, but thats the fact jack |
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Apr 28, 2015 13:02:09 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 13:02:09 GMT -5
Jkarr is absolutely right... the whole mentality of the game as staff members with cookies to pass out is what results in this sort of filtering behavior. Fact is, is that players have faced in game and OOC consequences for dissenting too much or otherwise rubbing staff members the wrong way, and if you don't think you run that risk by writing something disagreeable or maybe even misinterpreted here, then well, that just seems a little naive.
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