dcdc
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Post by dcdc on Dec 17, 2014 16:55:32 GMT -5
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Post by BitterFlashback on Dec 17, 2014 16:57:09 GMT -5
Right Mekeda. Can't remember Eldors staffer he wasn't around for long though I don't think. I met them both at the APM in '02'03 Turns out he was Myrdryn. friend of mine reminded me |
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Post by Jeshin on Dec 17, 2014 16:57:27 GMT -5
Actually Anaiah and I have had multiple characters hang out with each other, normally we only realized it after the fact. Why isn't she included on my account notes log of people I hangout with?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2014 17:02:12 GMT -5
Malken, yeah, Krrx was harsh on my account notes and could have fucked me over from the very beginning, so I empathize, but it's good that others were able to see beyond his judgements.
The current administration is way less mature than it as when I was a kid playing. Sanvean was old, Mekeda was older, all these were mature, older people. Not someone who is not only close to our age but is also fucking hostile as shit.
We're having to deal with basically peers who, at least one, really thinks he has somehow transcended us all, when - no, dude, you are no "better" than even delerak, so get the fuck over yourself, Nyr - when before we had people who were experienced, fair, and way older who were the most part /guiding/ us and /encouraging/ us and even /inspiring/ us... But I am sorry... It is hard to look to Nyr for any of that... nor do I feel confident looking to Adhira or Nessalin, either, as I think they have allowed bias to infect their ability to act as effective leaders. That is what we need. We need effective leaders who are fair and impartial and will have more respect for players in general.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2014 17:04:57 GMT -5
Actually Anaiah and I have had multiple characters hang out with each other, normally we only realized it after the fact. Why isn't she included on my account notes log of people I hangout with? Nyr really dislikes Zeia. More than most players. And it wouldn't surprise me to see that he might be the origin of the vast number of such notes as they relate to her, on yours and everyone else's accounts as well. |
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Post by malkeninthemiddle on Dec 17, 2014 17:09:12 GMT -5
Malken, yeah, Krrx was harsh on my account notes and could have fucked me over from the very beginning, so I empathize, but it's good that others were able to see beyond his judgements. The current administration is way less mature than it as when I was a kid playing. Sanvean was old, Mekeda was older, all these were mature, older people. Not someone who is not only close to our age but is also fucking hostile as shit. We're having to deal with basically peers who, at least one, really thinks he has somehow transcended us all, when - no, dude, you are no "better" than even delerak, so get the fuck over yourself, Nyr - when before we had people who were experienced, fair, and way older who were the most part /guiding/ us and /encouraging/ us and even /inspiring/ us... But I am sorry... It is hard to look to Nyr for any of that... nor do I feel confident looking to Adhira or Nessalin, either, as I think they have allowed bias to infect their ability to act as effective leaders. That is what we need. We need effective leaders who are fair and impartial and will have more respect for players in general. Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to defend current Nyr in the least, after all, I got banned two days ago for calling him a fucking prick on the GDB. It's mostly the part where one imm can be super nice to you for a while and make someone else's life miserable that is interesting to me. I'm also not here to preside court over Krrx, he's so long gone that he doesn't matter to me one bit in the equation. It's sad that as a still very recent player, I don't even know who is Staff and who's who amongst them and who still is Staff, it's like they're either all clones of one another or they've all been told to shut up and let Nyr do the talking. Shit, if anyone thinks I'm here defending Nyr, hah, far from it.. He can suck it and I'm really hoping they'll kick his sorry ass back to Storyteller la la land. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2014 17:18:42 GMT -5
I wouldn't bet on it. But I would pay Nyr like $500 for a chance to box him for fifteen minutes.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Dec 17, 2014 17:21:18 GMT -5
I wouldn't bet on it. But I would pay Nyr like $500 for a chance to box him for fifteen minutes. It'd be faster to put him through a woodchippr and then bag him. |
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delerak
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Post by delerak on Dec 17, 2014 19:40:25 GMT -5
lol. Malkens so mad.
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Post by malkeninthemiddle on Dec 18, 2014 0:22:46 GMT -5
I am...? I guess my use of the verb "poo poo'ing" betrayed the seething anger I was trying hard to keep bottled up  |
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Post by Jeshin on Dec 18, 2014 18:25:34 GMT -5
Proof that Staff Complaints are not always about grevious insults or abuse but sometimes used for appeals and why Nyr being the go to producer for it is likely bad.
TLDR - Wilem got marked for unrealistic actions while injured. I had a scripted added to him without warning, noticed it some time later, then asked for it to be removed, got told no but I could appeal via a staff complaint. Adhira responded civilly.
Jeshin
2011-08-30 12:01:34AM (1206 days ago)
Hey,
So I get that I was flagged as a twink for my stint up north. I still maintain that I RPed and looked around before finding foraging spots and I agree that I ignored my injuries severity. I've been denied for my spec app that I had in and I'm trying to be a little more realistic about my injuries. As anyone might note, Wilem now makes sure any serious injury he takes he heals through over multiple weeks if needed.
All that being said, I'm experiencing an effect while injured that hasn't happened at all in the 20 odd PCs I've had. PCs with lower endurance, more starving time, and haven taken more serious injuries than Wilem. I can only surmrise that it's a bug or that the staff have added a script to my character, or that they're doing it manually to me.
8:19 - In the middle of a fight with scrab where I was at 36 hp and Derin was fighting it. I hopped up onto my beetle, emote bleeding heavily and attempting to hit the scrab and then was pinged with what appears to be the blood loss script you get a negative HP.
8:55 - After RPing the injuries, even going to so far as to have Derin carrying me through the city and "passing" out myself. I finally recover from the blood loss script. So about 35 minute 25ish of which I was passed out and pretty much incapable of RPing without another player giving me input.
If a staffer dinged me manually, I'd like to know why considering I've seen people with equally bad wounds rejoin a fight when they're no longer being hit. If it's a script added to my PC I'd like to think that I've made improvements enough to not need to be codedly dinged for 35 minutes most of which I will spend passed out. If it's a bug then I can provide a more thorough log if one is required.
Not angry or anything I'm just trying to understand a coded affect that I'm getting that I've never gotten previously.
Granted by Maeve
2011-09-03 04:36:47PM (1202 days ago)
Jeshin,
Your Question/Request request has been resolved. On two successive days staff members animated NPCs in an attempt to gently nudge you toward role playing injuries more realistically but to no avail. This was as much for other players and to protect the integrity of the roleplay world as it was to correct you; it is very jarring for others to see someone walking around in Luir's with critical injuries acting as if nothing has happened to them. So the next time it was noticed that you were not dealing realistically with injuries, a script was added to your PC.
The script is meant to ensure that realistic roleplay does occur after serious injuries. In previous correspondence I have described to you at what point, roughly, you can consider injuries to be of a serious nature. The script kicks in well below that threshold so if it has, as you say, caused you to spend 35 minutes recovering consider that to be merited. 35 minutes is the equivalent of 8 RL hours which doesn't really seem like much to recover from very serious injuries.
I will not be removing the script from your PC. If you feel you have been dealt with unfairly, you can put in a staff complaint which will be reviewed by the Producers.
Maeve
Armageddon Staff
Jeshin
2011-09-03 05:08:51PM (1202 days ago)
Cc'd to: House Oash
Hey,
This isn't a complaint against Maeve as an appeal against the script on my PC. I would put it to them, but as stated in correspondance I should appeal to the Producers instead.
1) I get why the thing was added, I do. I admitted to improperly RPing the injuries but since that instance I can't see a point where I've not made my injuries painfully obvious to everyone. Except -when- the script was added, by my guess, while I was afk and had started to starve...
2) The script is to ensure realistic RP. It knocks me out, forcibly for 20 min. Even if a Vivaduan heals me to full health, I'm knocked out. So the script precludes the RP that might occur around me. No matter what, I'm knocked out for 20 min.
3) I've taken steps to bring my RP more in line with what was discussed in the correspondance so I would hope that the script isn't even required. I mean I've been RPing injuries and including them in my tdesc since the first staff commentary.
Still not angry and I'm not trying to circumvent Maeve. Just putting in the staff complaint as instructed for the appeal.
Granted by Adhira
2011-09-13 12:55:40AM (1192 days ago)
Jeshin,
Your Staff Complaint request has been resolved. Thank you for sending this in. I've taken the time to look this over and talk with your clan staff members. While I appreciate that this is frustrating for you the script will remain in place on your character. As long as you take care not to get your character critically injured it should not kick in and cause the excessive down time with the blood loss. I feel that you can manage to work around this script with a little thought in to when it is appropriate to back out of a fight or sparring.
Adhira
Armageddon Staff
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 18:37:12 GMT -5
Oh my god... Do they even still use the blood loss script?
I thought it had been removed.
I think an immortal should have to play a character with the blood loss script for 3 RL years and survive before they can apply it to another character, kinda like how cops have to get maced before they can mace people.
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Post by Jeshin on Dec 18, 2014 18:38:54 GMT -5
They evidently do for that instance. The biggest issue is I didn't know I had the script until it kicked in and it does stun dmg which is really really really really really really dangerous outside. Luckily at the time I was an Oashi Aide and rocking it in Allanak and had a network of people who managed to snag me the first time it happened. I managed to avoid it happening again after I knew about it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 13:56:32 GMT -5
That's terrible. I remember being in the IRC room when it came out... Right delerak - wasn't the blood loss code first introduced en masse around that time? People were FUCKING PISSED, and I could swear that it had been removed completely. It is sad that they are still using it. I mean, I understand what they are trying to do, but it is always a huge pain in the ass when it comes to dealing with injury in the first place. If I do something dumb when I first login in what I know will be a multiple hour session, and I get harmed right at the first, then sorry, I do not want to spend the next five hours roleplaying something that was the result of me making a typo, typing too slowly, or accidentallying a hole. If it were an interesting injury or something conducive to some good roleplay, I'd be more likely to take measured care to display how a wound is impairing my dude - especially if there were players around and it was for immersion's sake. Zalanthans, to me, are just fucking hardasses... They can take a beating in a way that makes what Americans consider "tough," actually look like the Canadian equivalent of "tough" (meaning, way less tough). Zalanthans should be able to and are in fact able to get dropped to 1/10 of their life and still be capable of some serious murdering. I'm not saying that it's okay to ignore your wounds, but Zalanthans should be easily able to take an ass kicking or near death experience and keep on trucking, within reason. The blood loss code just seems extremely unfair. It is hard enough to survive on Arm without being affected by some unequally distributed automagick damage penalty for subjective interpretation of your play. |
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Post by jcarter on Dec 19, 2014 14:08:00 GMT -5
whether it was good play or not, if you want players to behave realistically the solution should be codedly implementing it to everyone. get below 30% hp or whatever arbitrary value, you have the ass whooped status effect and your max hp is down by 20% for however long, with physical stats decreased.
throwing a specially-made punishment ability on players who are arbitrarily identified as abusing the code just feeds into the "i'm being picked on" vibe, especially when it's relics that haven't been used in like what a decade?
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