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Post by chaosisaladder on Dec 10, 2014 5:17:00 GMT -5
A few posts have hinted that the maximum wisdom of an elf is actually leagues above a human. How much mana can your elven mage tend to expect? From what I've seen, a gemmed mage can hopefully get off two mon spells before he's nearly spent.
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Post by Patuk on Dec 10, 2014 9:09:13 GMT -5
125 or so, nothing gamebreaking.
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Post by sirra on Dec 10, 2014 10:09:15 GMT -5
Less than you'd think, really.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2014 18:07:19 GMT -5
The maximum wisdom/mana of an elf is not 125, because it increases in threes (the mana) for each point of wisdom, and maximum human wisdom is 124 or 127 without a gem, so if that were the case, they'd have no boost to wisdom (elves) over humans.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 3:48:22 GMT -5
True story:
City elf wisdom was changed after I rolled a Nilazi CElf with over 150 mana.
Near-instantaneous code change happened after chargen, hahaha.
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Post by gloryhound on Dec 22, 2014 6:36:06 GMT -5
True story: City elf wisdom was changed after I rolled a Nilazi CElf with over 150 mana. Near-instantaneous code change happened after chargen, hahaha. That's always rankled me. Annoying shit doesn't get fixed for years, minor creations at players' requests take forever, but if some player discovers some sort of advantage that can actually lift him above the rock, paper, scissors existence a little, it's gone the next day. I was toying with the idea of a Nilazi elf for a while. His goal would be to permanently possess a half-giant's corpse. What a platform that would be for conning people. Then I figured any clan would demand the half-giant to ride, and the staff would still stomp you for it. |
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Post by sirra on Dec 22, 2014 8:41:36 GMT -5
True story: City elf wisdom was changed after I rolled a Nilazi CElf with over 150 mana. Near-instantaneous code change happened after chargen, hahaha. This was one of the reasons why Del's race stats never sat entirely right with me. The wisdom always seemed lackluster on elves. But I didn't know about when or why it was tweaked. Personally, I think a lot of the data regarding skills and stats on this board has been changed. Probably for stupid, random reasons or just because it was listed here. And gloryhound, that's hilariously true. Elves: Necromantic possession of a monstrous corpse is okay. Having that corpse pretend to ride is RIGHT OUT MOTHERFUCKER. The best race is mul, as ever, (many great strengths, coded damage increase, no RP hamstrining really), but the second best is dwarves that manage to get 20+ in strength and endurance on their rolls. There's a big difference between 20 and 19. |
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Post by nyrsucks on Dec 22, 2014 9:26:38 GMT -5
I know of two occasions where the staff made code changes that seem to be rage targetted at a specific player. The crazy thing is they make up these blatant retcon lies about WHY they changed it complete with GDB posts.
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Post by jkarr on Dec 22, 2014 9:51:41 GMT -5
True story: City elf wisdom was changed after I rolled a Nilazi CElf with over 150 mana. Near-instantaneous code change happened after chargen, hahaha. That's always rankled me. Annoying shit doesn't get fixed for years, minor creations at players' requests take forever, but if some player discovers some sort of advantage that can actually lift him above the rock, paper, scissors existence a little, it's gone the next day. I was toying with the idea of a Nilazi elf for a while. His goal would be to permanently possess a half-giant's corpse. What a platform that would be for conning people. Then I figured any clan would demand the half-giant to ride, and the staff would still stomp you for it. man an elf nilazi would be one hell of a headtrip to play. and if ur retaining ur mentality in all other respects but then conveniently discarding probably the least mutable mental trait/fixation of elves for the sake of convenience or 'keeping up the con' then yeah u can and should expect to get slammed. but i think there are ways u could artfully pull it off. for example itd be way more realistic and compelling if u rped out the mental discord u would encounter by being an elf in a non-elf body and experiencing things with others not treating you like u have been ur whole life. and lets say u spend a long time living as this possessed non-elf char, then yeah u could rp the gradual erosion of some of their elven traits, but some of the clear documented hardline parts of the elf mentality (stupid as many think it is, not riding being one of the foremost) should be the last to go if u go down that route, and u should def rp out the mental discord if/when u finally do ud basically be letting urself get brainwashed by the world around u to the point where u may eventually get to that breaking point of getting past some deepcoded racial instincts. that in itself would be very interesting to play out, and hell rping all the idiosyncracies, why u do/dont do certain things and ppl possibly noticing or getting suspicious why u have certain things u 'wont do', the risk of getting caught etc. can make for some really memorable rp and scenes. and of course if u wanted less work u could always use the trusty fallback of a gradual separation with ur base racial instincts because of ur communion with the void, but that looks like it could be easy territory for them to accuse u of abuse (like can they do with dwarves that have a broad focus that lets them justify doing all kinds of things). but it may work even if they didnt care and let u do what u want ud be missing out on a whole world of fun what happens to an elf upstairs when s/hes working out how to manage being another race. |
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Post by sirra on Dec 22, 2014 9:53:17 GMT -5
I know of two occasions where the staff made code changes that seem to be rage targetted at a specific player. The crazy thing is they make up these blatant retcon lies about WHY they changed it complete with GDB posts. It's happened to me as well, re: charge. |
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Post by topkekm8s on Dec 22, 2014 11:57:43 GMT -5
That's always rankled me. Annoying shit doesn't get fixed for years, minor creations at players' requests take forever, but if some player discovers some sort of advantage that can actually lift him above the rock, paper, scissors existence a little, it's gone the next day. I was toying with the idea of a Nilazi elf for a while. His goal would be to permanently possess a half-giant's corpse. What a platform that would be for conning people. Then I figured any clan would demand the half-giant to ride, and the staff would still stomp you for it. man an elf nilazi would be one hell of a headtrip to play. and if ur retaining ur mentality in all other respects but then conveniently discarding probably the least mutable mental trait/fixation of elves for the sake of convenience or 'keeping up the con' then yeah u can and should expect to get slammed. but i think there are ways u could artfully pull it off. for example itd be way more realistic and compelling if u rped out the mental discord u would encounter by being an elf in a non-elf body and experiencing things with others not treating you like u have been ur whole life. and lets say u spend a long time living as this possessed non-elf char, then yeah u could rp the gradual erosion of some of their elven traits, but some of the clear documented hardline parts of the elf mentality (stupid as many think it is, not riding being one of the foremost) should be the last to go if u go down that route, and u should def rp out the mental discord if/when u finally do ud basically be letting urself get brainwashed by the world around u to the point where u may eventually get to that breaking point of getting past some deepcoded racial instincts. that in itself would be very interesting to play out, and hell rping all the idiosyncracies, why u do/dont do certain things and ppl possibly noticing or getting suspicious why u have certain things u 'wont do', the risk of getting caught etc. can make for some really memorable rp and scenes. and of course if u wanted less work u could always use the trusty fallback of a gradual separation with ur base racial instincts because of ur communion with the void, but that looks like it could be easy territory for them to accuse u of abuse (like can they do with dwarves that have a broad focus that lets them justify doing all kinds of things). but it may work even if they didnt care and let u do what u want ud be missing out on a whole world of fun what happens to an elf upstairs when s/hes working out how to manage being another race. stop acting like you can roleplay, shadowboard scum |
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Post by jkarr on Dec 22, 2014 12:02:02 GMT -5
its not acting its rp noob lol
get on my level
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