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Post by themountaingoat on Nov 4, 2014 12:32:02 GMT -5
y'all niggas aint settin shit - 4/20 act like fat unemployed harpy autists errday
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Post by lyse on Nov 4, 2014 12:51:06 GMT -5
Wait, so let me get this straight. So anybody that tries to start a small clan in the 'rinth or RSV is us shadow boarders and bans are going to get handed out? I don't think staff would do that, because logic. Some of you are super-paranoid. I don't think that'll happen and I think they're encouraging people to RP together in small groups. Some of you solo RP twink guys can wrap your heads around this. If a bunch of players roll into the very same group, do you really think they could fly under the radar? 18 people voted on this poll. This isn't three dudes hunting together. If even half as many form a group, it'll be instantaneously obvious, in light of this thread, and especially as many will probably be on new accounts. Don't have a cunt attitude if you don't at least have a sound argument. You haven't disproved my point though. A lot of what ifs that nobody even said. Some of you guys and your little anger issues are hilarious though. You typed all that just to call me a cunt lol.
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drunkendwarf
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SUCK IT, NYR AND ADHIRA
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Post by drunkendwarf on Nov 4, 2014 13:18:48 GMT -5
Just be careful if you start raiding in the wilds. You might be chided for your "kill rate" which apparently is a thing. Even if said "kill rate" averages one PC a month. I've had thoughts of making a new character at some point for the sole purpose of raiding and helping to contribute to this whole "the outdoors is harsh and scary". I think "Well fuck it I just won't submit player reports at all". Yeah...you won't get far with that if you're killing PC's. Apparently you can't kill PC's in a pkill mud. And now I also think "Oh right...Nyr and Adhira". And sadly now I ALSO have to think "Nyr => Producer". And then I'm done entertaining the idea of making a new character. Yes I'm bitter. And Nyr...fuck you. I know you read this. Fuck you, buddy. And you too, Adhira.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Nov 4, 2014 15:17:03 GMT -5
You guys have already pretty much ruined it for yourselves. You know they read this board. There's no way you can pull off any kind of concerted roleplay now as it will be painfully obvious who you are no matter what area you decide on. Besides, if you genuinely think you can jump in and make a difference, you're a bit deluded. If you don't get banned outright, you'll just be railroaded down Nyr's trademark Roleplay Stifler, probably by having a bunch of NPCs suddenly contrive to be your enemies and refuse to let you succeed at anything whatsoever. we also potentially ruined it for anyone else, like @roguegunslinger pointed out. One of my posts that wound up in the split had some speculation worth bring back into here. If the staff did ban groups of people doing what we'd said wed do, theyd be outing themselves as the ban-happy dipshits we know they are. but on the other hand, they probably won't care how itll make them look. Their gdb cult either won't believe anything said on our board or will dismiss it with a blanket statement based on convenience.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Nov 4, 2014 15:17:38 GMT -5
You guys have already pretty much ruined it for yourselves. You know they read this board. There's no way you can pull off any kind of concerted roleplay now as it will be painfully obvious who you are no matter what area you decide on. Besides, if you genuinely think you can jump in and make a difference, you're a bit deluded. If you don't get banned outright, you'll just be railroaded down Nyr's trademark Roleplay Stifler, probably by having a bunch of NPCs suddenly contrive to be your enemies and refuse to let you succeed at anything whatsoever. we also potentially ruined it for anyone else, like Kronibas 2.0 pointed out. One of my posts that wound up in the split had some speculation worth bring back into here. If the staff did ban groups of people doing what we'd said wed do, theyd be outing themselves as the ban-happy dipshits we know they are. but on the other hand, they probably won't care how itll make them look. Their gdb cult either won't believe anything said on our board or will dismiss it with a blanket statement based on convenience. Unless of course they accidentally ban innocnt bystanders they confuse with us. which wold be tragic but hilarious
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punished ppurg
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Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
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Post by punished ppurg on Nov 4, 2014 15:32:44 GMT -5
In my extremely humble opinion:
Wizards on any MUD/MOO know that a permaban is very easily bypassed. They expect the person they banned to return. However, if the person they perma'd returns, and plays by the rules, and is pretty much non-detectable as the banned dude by not exploiting/griefing or whatever? They're normally fine with it.
Maybe Arm's staff is the outlier. I'd suggest not to be so tough on the Planck-length portion of the world population that actually wants to play y/our internet text database game. But my experience comes from a very hands-off MOO, so there could likely well be different schools of thought going on.
As long as shadowboard dudes join to play, and just play (without any of the griefing or twinking or pushing some radical shadowboard secret agenda unjustified by their character's IC background and all), I don't believe the staff would have an issue with it? I might be legitimately wrong, though.
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delerak
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"When you want to fool the world, tell the truth." - Otto Von Bismarck
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Post by delerak on Nov 4, 2014 23:47:31 GMT -5
I'll return to Arm the day they publicly apologize to every player that was wrongfully banned for a variety of hate filled reasons by a variety of staff over the years.
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Kronibas 2.0
Displaced Tuluki
this account will go inactive once I hit 420 posts
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Post by Kronibas 2.0 on Nov 4, 2014 23:55:34 GMT -5
That's a shitty reason to return to such a stagnant, cesspool of a game. But whatever, I guess we can mudsex.
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delerak
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"When you want to fool the world, tell the truth." - Otto Von Bismarck
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Post by delerak on Nov 5, 2014 0:42:46 GMT -5
It's about the people running the game being humble and having the courage to show that they can apologize for past transgressions.
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fightclub
staff puppet account
In your base, killing your dudes.
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Post by fightclub on Nov 5, 2014 0:59:03 GMT -5
When they announced they weren't doing Arm 2.0, I posted, criticizing them jumping the gun and announcing it two years prior to them even working on it. Nyr dropped the hammer, and I've been banned ever since. It is in my signature.
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Post by topkekm8s on Nov 5, 2014 1:06:49 GMT -5
In my extremely humble opinion: Wizards on any MUD/MOO know that a permaban is very easily bypassed. They expect the person they banned to return. However, if the person they perma'd returns, and plays by the rules, and is pretty much non-detectable as the banned dude by not exploiting/griefing or whatever? They're normally fine with it. Maybe Arm's staff is the outlier. I'd suggest not to be so tough on the Planck-length portion of the world population that actually wants to play y/our internet text database game. But my experience comes from a very hands-off MOO, so there could likely well be different schools of thought going on. As long as shadowboard dudes join to play, and just play (without any of the griefing or twinking or pushing some radical shadowboard secret agenda unjustified by their character's IC background and all), I don't believe the staff would have an issue with it? I might be legitimately wrong, though. Nah, they're generally too stubborn for that I think. Fun anecdote demonstrating staff thick-headedness: I know the creators of Mudlet, right? So, being the nice and amazing guy I am I try to set something up with my guys and the Arm staff as to where Armageddon would be a featured mud on the client's splash screen (other popular muds are listed, like IRE muds, batmud, aardwolf, etc). Why not feature Armageddon, right? So I introduce staff to them, they start talking, but eventually decline the request as they were under the impression that they (mudlet devs) were going to log into the game and act out of character and do weird things, so why risk it at all? Instead of working something out that would probably keep sending new players to the mud for years and years, as mudlet is really the only next-gen mud client in town, they chose not to because oh dear god new things are scary. Not only wildly unprofessional but just plain stupid. Oy vey it just hurts my brain thinking about it.
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delerak
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Post by delerak on Nov 5, 2014 2:41:38 GMT -5
Lol didn't Nyr quote like there are only 5 running perm bans or some nonsense? I don't know I remember it somewhere, maybe that recent player.staff meeting but the number was insanely low. Someone dig that shit up so I can make fun of it more.
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fightclub
staff puppet account
In your base, killing your dudes.
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Post by fightclub on Nov 5, 2014 2:46:53 GMT -5
Lol didn't Nyr quote like there are only 5 running perm bans or some nonsense? I don't know I remember it somewhere, maybe that recent player.staff meeting but the number was insanely low. Someone dig that shit up so I can make fun of it more. "FightClub, holding down the ban since May 16, 2012." Huh, probably time I should contribute something to the thread. I'm a big fan of everything being open, so people can play what they want to play, deserted clan or otherwise. I'm not at all a fan of playercapping clans, or tribes, or class capping anything. If everyone wants to play a mul sorcerer psionist, by all means, let them do it. They can't be any worse than some of the staff representations I've seen or heard about.
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punished ppurg
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Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
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Post by punished ppurg on Nov 5, 2014 3:59:18 GMT -5
Fun anecdote demonstrating staff thick-headedness: Heavily disconcerting. Arm is severely bare-bones when it comes to the actual stream of text coming in over the connection. Having an official client, or some sort of established plugin, of some sort, would have been integral in retaining some number of new players over the years, I'm positive.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2014 4:33:56 GMT -5
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