A request

This.

When I first came on as Tuluki ST, there were almost no apps (I mean 1) for a Jihaen when a role call was first put out, compared to about a dozen for a Lirathan. What's funny is that rather than take the application and put them in, I was told to extend the role call by higher ups, because admin didn't trust the player, despite lack of negative account notes.

You want to be the change? Like this guy said, vote with your feet to show you don't care for the role, and you don't want it. Because no amount of roleplayed out 'being the change' in the gameworld itself will change anything unless your group's admin approves it, demonstrate that you can be the change in a different way.

I just hope it wasn't MY Jihaen they didn't trust, although I did eventually go on a suicide mission with 2 Legionnaires (and didn't... goddamned... die) until storage because for 4 months I had no support staff.

It wasn't. Actually I had just gotten onto staff in time to watch his adventure in the chasm. I'm talking about the role call that went up for his replacement. Heh.

I never liked Tuluk to begin with, so it's really a moot point.

Really? I thought it depended on who you showed your wiener to -- I'm looking at you, Nyr.

And ultimately who decides if there are 30 applications? Is that what they really want? Because to me I wouldn't want that running a game. I wouldn't want one role open for something and have a bunch of people I had to choose from. I'd rather the players join THAT clan and work their way up to that position.

Also if the next argument is that you can't work your way into certain roles ICly (IE: nobles) then the staffers should go to players who show an interest in that role via a simple tracking tool. You could have your account set flags via the website that had options for what roles you are interested in playing.

-Nobles. Yes
-Slaves. No.
-Special plot. No
-Byn Sergeant. Yes
-House Tor Warlord. Yes.
-House Fale. No.


Etc etc. There are better ways to do things. To me I'd rather have a staffer come to me and be like "Hey I noticed you have the noble interested flag on we are looking for a fale noble." Instead they post these app threads and expect people to like come up with some bullshit application that stands out. It's really dumb.

No system is perfect. Some Staff have been known to approach certain players. Even arranging for an interesting way to end their previous character so they can start their new role. Sometimes this turned out wonderful. Sometimes pretty subpar, but either way the few times when other players found out that this happened, it was called favoritism.

Are you certain that the player have had 4 other templar roles already? Most usually (though not always), players who already had 4 high responsibility roles like templars, are not known for being fickle and store within 2 weeks. Though "life" happens to everyone. There is no denying it.

There are sometimes excellent character applications, which dont go through because some particular imm just plain doesnt like that player in that role. Most commonly, it's when the player expects and demands a lot of work from staffside. Though very often the 'work' is actually pretty simple and easy. But if the player shows himself too needy and demanding, it leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Sometimes that attitude is understandable, sometimes it's not.

At the same time, there are apps which are basically bare bones, from a player who has no experience in leadership roles what so ever. But they are known to understand the particular clan very well, so they are given a shot. And sometimes once again the application is pretty basic, but the player is known to make shit happen without imm assistance and are known for the ability to withstand downtimes without storage, so their app goes through.

It's a little bit of a popularity contest, absolutely. But everything in life is. At the very least. The apps are open to discussions by multiple Imms. So if someone is being completely idiotic about refusing someone, they're not doing it privately. They're doing it for all other staff to read. Which is a detriment to some, but obviously not everyone.