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Post by sitbackandchillout on Jun 4, 2014 18:07:07 GMT -5
Can people please go into more detail about some of this stuff, many people reading will have no idea what's going on. Guild assassins? Expansion Division? Throw a dog a bone...
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Lizzie
Clueless newb
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Post by Lizzie on Jun 4, 2014 18:08:44 GMT -5
Can people please go into more detail about some of this stuff, many people reading will have no idea what's going on. Guild assassins? Expansion Division? Throw a dog a bone... We don't want to give away any thpoilerth. It makes us feel like we're in the in-crowd.
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Post by sitbackandchillout on Jun 4, 2014 18:13:16 GMT -5
Can people please go into more detail about some of this stuff, many people reading will have no idea what's going on. Guild assassins? Expansion Division? Throw a dog a bone... We don't want to give away any thpoilerth. It makes us feel like we're in the in-crowd. Happy for you.....
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Deleted
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2014 18:51:57 GMT -5
It's pretty hard to describe Khortoc's Salarri expansion division, or Mallor/Iakovitz gameplay and give them justice. To sum it all up, it would go something like this. A very good player decided to play a leadership role and totally owned it. Over time, they managed to attract good players, keep good players, junk shitty players, and do all that while coming up with awesome plots that got the Imms on board and itching for more.
In essence. There really isnt anything "special" about Khortoc, Mallor, or Iakovitz's time. No grand HRPTs, no volcanoes, nothing like that. It was just good players playing and creating content and fun for themselves, other players, and staff. Personally? I get a small tiny orgasm every time I remember Expansion Division. This was well done. When Khortoc was gone and a new Agent was brought in to replace him who tried to push "his" rules to an already established group of lifeoathed Salarri, his 'reign' ended "VERY" quickly.
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Post by sirra on Nov 8, 2014 1:40:19 GMT -5
The warlady was Marie. She used to sit at Trader's, hunched over and idle for hours. i fucking hated marie. she would never actually do anything as a noble for Tor guards or interact at all with other members of the house in any way whatsoever, which was basically what led to Tor being empty around that time period. She would also do shit like rent several apartments at a time when there was a VERY limited number which had to be rented by a Nenyuk family member. On top of that, she wouldn't log on for ages and when she would she would be a pain in the ass about paying the months worth of rent on places she never used. The memories, they burn.
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fightclub
staff puppet account
In your base, killing your dudes.
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Post by fightclub on Nov 8, 2014 2:37:07 GMT -5
Can people please go into more detail about some of this stuff, many people reading will have no idea what's going on. Guild assassins? Expansion Division? Throw a dog a bone... If you're not familiar with the terminology the Expansion Division was basically the elite of the elite in the golden age of Salarr. At that time, everyone wanted to be in fucking Salarr, and the rp was fucking amazing, anything you wanted they had, they went from Tuluk, Nak, to Luirs frequently, they had friendships, relationships, and rivals across the known, they hunted, killed, and fucked everything. The Expansion Division was eventually discontinued or deaded, or whatever, but the memories be strong. Guild assassins? I guess they're referring to the Guild, as in the Rinth, and I know shit and fuck about the rinth, so that's as much as you'll get from me. 90% twink 10% solid as fuck players who will scare the hell out of you.
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Post by sirra on Nov 8, 2014 4:17:16 GMT -5
Can people please go into more detail about some of this stuff, many people reading will have no idea what's going on. Guild assassins? Expansion Division? Throw a dog a bone... If you're not familiar with the terminology the Expansion Division was basically the elite of the elite in the golden age of Salarr. At that time, everyone wanted to be in fucking Salarr, and the rp was fucking amazing, anything you wanted they had, they went from Tuluk, Nak, to Luirs frequently, they had friendships, relationships, and rivals across the known, they hunted, killed, and fucked everything. The Expansion Division was eventually discontinued or deaded, or whatever, but the memories be strong. Guild assassins? I guess they're referring to the Guild, as in the Rinth, and I know shit and fuck about the rinth, so that's as much as you'll get from me. 90% twink 10% solid as fuck players who will scare the hell out of you. I got in on the tail end of Expansion Division, and then revived it as best I could, back when there were still veterans around, and lots of their gear and such (like the bracers everyone wanted). Expansion Division 2.0 didn't get into the extent of the batshit schemes that Expansion Division 1.0 got into - we largely avoided the templars and sorcerors, and were more about doing our actual jobs as hunters and terrorizing the wastes. This had a large part to do with the nature of the leadership. Some players get involved in more whacky plotlines than others. But I don't think there's ever been a crew that killed more bahamets and meks and looked as good doing it. It wasn't as epic as what X-D and F put together at its peak, with all the convoluted shit they were embroiled in. But it honored them. And several still living E-D originals ended up rejoining for 2.0 with varying degrees of success. There was some interesting drama and friction between the original ED 1.0ers, the mostly worthless (with 2 exceptions) between-crew group when Salarr was dead for a couple months and the 2.0 crew. Sadly, there were a few deaths involved. But it was a great story, and great RP. It was a bit tragic. I remember a particular incident on a particular road with a particular pair of surly dwarves which did not end well. You might remember it too. There was some amazing RP though, even though it didn't get the credit it deserved. There were about 6-7 maxed people near the end, including at least three rangers. The unit's demise was sad, given it more or less self-combusted in murder, thinly veiled staff-sanctioned OOC murder, suicide and storage. Remember...Gom? Was it? This was after they tried to kill us all off with a pissed off NPC tribe. That was the first time I got truly badly disillusioned. When they let a dude whose d-elf alt I killed, and who apparently lost karma over it, make a half-giant, join our unit - completely lie and do un-half-gianty things...and because I was a trusting soul and didn't play the OOC telephone game, I never knew he was talking openly about doing whatever it took to get me killed. He even hooked up with a Tuluki noble who was a rival of ours, and she apparently 'convinced' him to assassinate me. So he took 4 pinches of agility spice and waited till I was on the ground to have an 'accident', with a dozen Salarri NPCs around and a newbie Salarri family member watching, whereupon he ran out and took refuge with the Tuluki. This was after a lengthy RP session I had with him, where I looked into his eyes and subjected him to the closest of scrutiny. He never RP'd the spice effects. Fuck that guy. As far as I heard later, he was never punished for it. And a great unit imploded. I got the scoop on it later - the half-giant was OOC friends with the Salarri mindbender and another half-giant I'd killed - and who had told someone else OOCly about how it went down, and who the HG really was (the d-elf alt, who died, then joined Salarr to get back at me). That someone else happened to know me via the Salarri board, and showed it to me. I took my complaint to Adhira, and she never did anything about it.
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mood
Displaced Tuluki
JOHN DARNIELLE #1 FANZONE
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Post by mood on Nov 8, 2014 21:56:33 GMT -5
man. i fucking miss salyarr.
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my2sids
Displaced Tuluki
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Post by my2sids on Nov 8, 2014 23:07:50 GMT -5
I remember that clusterfuck, Sirra. I was really disappointed that Nadhir went down like that.
-your local drunken salarri agent from yesteryear
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Post by sirra on Nov 9, 2014 12:02:30 GMT -5
I remember that clusterfuck, Sirra. I was really disappointed that Nadhir went down like that. -your local drunken salarri agent from yesteryear Sad thing is, I thought the half-giant was a newbie, so went out of my way to help him. If I'd known then, what I eventually learned later about the OOC cliques in the game at the time, I'd have been intensely suspicious. Him hooking up with various improbable 'allies' that he only knew OOCly should've been a giveaway. What would any real noble want with a dirty, grotesquely MUTATED half-giant? I never knew he was a former karma 7 player, dropped down to like 3 for some abuses on his d-elf gicker alt, or whatever the fuck it was. He was a Dusk Runner or something. Whoever the 'evil' delves were. Five-six years later, I don't remember their exact name. But for a while, we were collecting their little knives as souvenirs, since they tried to do the Red Fang thing up north, and were way worse at it, than the real Red Fangs, which came later. As it happens, both noble and mutant giant had previous alts, which I guess, were roughly treated by Nadhir. But I was naive enough at the time to think people didn't carry that shit across alts, or if they did, that staff would effectively punish it. Other people around me did know, but since I didn't keep real OOC contact with anyone beyond the GDB, I never heeded the clues they were trying to drop. Nadhir could be incredibly cruel. But he never did anything that wasn't perfectly IC and fully in line with his savage, tribal ethos. He did however, get to kill Gom, a 100 day+ half-giant warrior, with a knife, in a full-on, perfectly fair fight. After he started molesting one of our younger rangers, and wouldn't back off after being repeatedly told to cut the crap. If anyone on this board remembers Gom the half-giant warrior, they'll know what we had to deal with. He later went on the GDB and ranted about all the magic rings Nadhir had. Which got his post deleted, but I don't think they docked him karma. Just let him keep special apping his retarded half-giants. He only ever had one ring. And it was always a secret. But of course, about a dozen people did their best to search his corpse and possessions for the imagined treasure trove. The newbie salarri family member ended up with it. In the end, staff incompetence surrounding that situation simply convinced me that the best practices in Arm was everything they discouraged on the surface - but which in reality, even they and their staff alts required for survival, in OOC cliques. This eventually lead to a period of me playing with only those I could OOCly trust (like 95% of the people on this board), and eventually, to losing interest entirely. Especially when I started to be able to recognize who other people were. Getting to the point where I could identify the same troublemakers across multiple alts, was a sore blow to my immersion. Nadhir was the last character I played, who was almost entirely innocent of the game's real politics. Prior to him, I'd only talked to one person, who I met years before in the Byn, as a mentor.
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jkarr
GDB Superstar
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Post by jkarr on Nov 9, 2014 14:14:31 GMT -5
This eventually lead to a period of me playing with only those I could OOCly trust ( like 95% of the people on this board) haha its saying a lot when the only ppl another player feels he can trust all come from the one place that staff will ban u for visiting or participating
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lurker
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Post by lurker on Nov 12, 2014 6:58:31 GMT -5
I played in three moons, was a lot of fun. Good people, fun adventures, sad deaths. Good times.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Nov 12, 2014 8:15:59 GMT -5
the imms really fucked up on that. They're supposed to be watching for that shit. IIRC there was a long-standing policy against immediately RPing with the same group of people as your prevous character. the whole thing should have sent up red flags. Im guessng they ignored it because theyre lazy fucks. This eventually lead to a period of me playing with only those I could OOCly trust ( like 95% of the people on this board) haha its saying a lot when the only ppl another player feels he can trust all come from the one place that staff will ban u for visiting or participating I wonder if Im a 95 percenter...
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Post by topkekm8s on Nov 12, 2014 10:07:48 GMT -5
I have very briefly tried playing with people I know OOCly, but I always feel weird/bad doing it and it really brings me out of the game. I wouldn't mind knowing that I'm playing with certain people in a certain area, and not knowing who they are, but I don't really want to know who their characters are.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Nov 12, 2014 17:24:53 GMT -5
I have very briefly tried playing with people I know OOCly, but I always feel weird/bad doing it and it really brings me out of the game. it's always been the opposite for me. But the reason Im playing with peeps I know OOC is i know they're good RPers who arent gonna tavern-sit as a primary motivaton.
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