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Post by forarm on Apr 18, 2014 10:37:43 GMT -5
You mean all that description and not pointing them out to you? I considered it but decided against it. I'll share the manga they took the name and character from, its a main character from : xxxholic.wikia.com/wiki/Holic_WikiIf no one else can guess, well maybe they have a right to get away with it.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2014 21:52:44 GMT -5
I checked the pics out. Pretty stereotypical archetype that probably existed before manga did. Personally, nothing sprung out at me. Sorry, man.
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Post by MartenBroadcloak on Apr 21, 2014 23:42:18 GMT -5
You mean all that description and not pointing them out to you? I considered it but decided against it. I'll share the manga they took the name and character from, its a main character from : xxxholic.wikia.com/wiki/Holic_WikiIf no one else can guess, well maybe they have a right to get away with it. She was an assassin..? ..wait, is she dead now? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2014 23:47:09 GMT -5
If you mean Yoko (Sp?) the Tuluki bard, I had no idea she was taken from an Anime, but that would explain some things. If this isn't her then I have no idea who this is supposed to be.
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Post by MartenBroadcloak on Apr 21, 2014 23:58:49 GMT -5
If you mean Yoko (Sp?) the Tuluki bard, I had no idea she was taken from an Anime, but that would explain some things. If this isn't her then I have no idea who this is supposed to be. That's what I though. Youko or whatever there. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 0:20:25 GMT -5
If you mean Yoko (Sp?) the Tuluki bard, I had no idea she was taken from an Anime, but that would explain some things. If this isn't her then I have no idea who this is supposed to be. That's what I though. Youko or whatever there. Same thing I was thinking. Never got close enough to her for anything to be explained by it, but that's just because she typically rubbed my pcs the wrong way. Didn't mind her or have anything against her on a staff level, but her and my pcs never got on. One of them, she told she was going to make into a pie. |
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Post by forarm on Apr 24, 2014 0:08:17 GMT -5
Yeah Youko (which can be spelled Yoko too depending on the manga(japanese comic book) adaptation. As I said, it was bad enough they copied the character description completely( even pale white fucking skin in a desert world) and the name, but if you actually read the manga, you could easily tell they were also copying the character's behavior, or at least trying too, down to some very fine details. The haughtiness, and the eccentricity of the character worked beautifully in the manga because there was purpose behind it, giving the character some depth when they finally turned serious. However in Arm, what should have been a mysterious but lovable and charming character was just turned to utter shit since there was no real depth let alone power, it mostly seemed to me at least, as some dumbass who was full of herself for no good reason. Besides generally rubbing my own character that bumped into her the wrong way, whenever I as a player noticed them copying something directly out of a manga such as, ' My name is Youko...but thats not my real name' I would gag especially since I was an actual fan of the manga character.
They were unfortunately around a long fucking time. Hopefully next time they'll consider playing something original.
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Post by legendary on Apr 24, 2014 4:40:56 GMT -5
If this was the character I'm thinking off, I had a PC spit directly into her mouth upon her insulting my character for failing a sneak check.
The player refused to respond to the action, instead choosing to continue as though it never happened. There were other PCs in the tavern at the time it happened and most carried on about the spit landing in her mouth, making remarks to each other about how it must taste and the player steadfastly refused to acknowledge it happened, or that there were other people responding to it happening.
I have a very high tolerance for Sues / exception characters. However, the Armageddon experience is in the interaction with others, a collaborative effort to tell a dynamic story. It is well beyond insulting to have another player "act" over everyone else, leaving others as little more than props in some self-gratifying monologue.
I'm unsure how this character met her end, but I hope it was a forgettable stage left.
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Post by MartenBroadcloak on Apr 24, 2014 9:10:54 GMT -5
I had someone puke on me in public once. Needless to say my fury level was so high that our Sarge insisted upon calmly insisting it was time to go. Then I bought new clothes with someone while bitching the whole time. xD
Ahhh. Gross.
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Post by lulz on Apr 24, 2014 9:33:35 GMT -5
No offense but that sounds like a power emote to me. She may have been a bitch and all but that was poor form (if it happened like you said it did). I'm laid back so I would have rolled with it but eh...questionable. =\ |
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Post by tektolnes on Apr 27, 2014 10:21:05 GMT -5
Basically what lulz said, but with caveat. I'd say it is poor form to emote the action and the connection. Generally you would do a "em spits at %youko face" then wait to see how she reacts. Some players will choose to emote dodge, some will take it to the face, and a select self-deprecating few (ie, the awesome ones) will have it land in their own mouth. The only time I emote the connect is when they refuse to acknowledge it. For example, I've had people get lippy in the Gaj, causing my character to decide to deck them. So they'd stalk over to the other characters stool, cock back a fist, and launch a haymaker in like 3 separate, spaced-out emotes.... and they player would respond by sitting on the stool and continuing to talk shit. So I'd use the hit command, (causing me to try and grab their shoulder or whatever) emoting basically my fist flying at them in presumably slow motion........ And they'd sit on the stool and continue talking shit. So I'd emote gritting my teeth as my flying knuckles come just fractions of an inch loser to their jaw...... And they'd sit on the stool and continue talking shit. So I'd emote square decking them across their stupid fucking face, dusting my hands off, and walking back to my stool. Of course, we have no idea how the scene with her played out. I met the player a couple times, and I wouldn't be surprised if the whole scene had played out precisely how I'd described above. But that's just my 2 cents. |
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Post by MartenBroadcloak on Apr 27, 2014 10:52:49 GMT -5
sometimes such a fine line on power emoting. I mean, if someone asks you to lean in and smell their flower on their lapel, and you're like, sure, emote leans in to put their nose in your lapel, I'm pretty sure it's fair to emote water suddenly squirts into your face from the flower as your nose touches it to sniff! Because, not only did your character agree to put themselves into the situation, in extremely close proximity to something for that matter, but who the hell but a super high AG elf is going to dodge a blast in the face from 2 cm away from their nose?
This is just an example of course. To me, power emoting isnt action and connection, persay. It's about context.
Personally, it drives me NUTS when I'm sitting directly next to someone on a couch, and they emote like, em attempts to pat you lightly on the shoulder.
I'm like.. I sat next to you, on this couch. You are literally five inches away and this action is in no way going to result in me like ninja rolling off the couch to avoid it. If I don't like it, I'll swat your hand or glare. You didn't -attempt- it. I'm right fucking there man. Come on.
People are too concerned about every single touch, tap, lean and nudge. Context, context, context people.
If I am whispering in your ear, and you sneeze, then you sneezed on me. It's not a power emote. I'm an inch from your face. You didn't specify my reaction to it and the action itself is singular and fast, not a string of things where I have a chance to avoid anything or make a choice.
If I am whispering in your ear, and you grab me under both arms and sneeze in my face, holding me down and throwing me on the floor to cough disease into my lungs? No. That's power emoting. you can't say I didn't fight back, nor that I didn't wriggle away at the initial attempt.
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Post by MartenBroadcloak on Apr 27, 2014 10:56:43 GMT -5
Side note, I am so tempted when people skittishly emote silly things out of uncertainty about what power emoting is, that I want to take a ludicrous reaction just to point out how insane it is so often...
The tall, muscular man nudges an elbow at you from an inch away on his bar stool, intending to nudge your side.
>Em leaps sideways from the stool in an act of uncanny dexterity to avoid the tall, muscular mans filthy elbow!
...and yes, I am aware -some- people might have PC's that would leap with uncanny dexterity away from an elbow out of a crippling fear of elbows because of their back story has gicker elbows in it or something ... that still doesn't make that situation a power emote.
If your PC is so jumpy they would do a barrel roll to avoid a back pat, then you probably shouldn't be RPing them allowing people in their personal space, or, you can just jerk back from the back pat horrified and then cuss them out.
The tall, muscular man nudges you in the side with an elbow from an inch away on his bar stool. (not power emote)
The tall, muscular man drives his elbow into you, until you fall sideways from your stool. (power emote)
Furthermore, you can detect a power emote by how difficult it is to respond deflectively. Is a retcon required, or can you neatly skirt the connection still? Suppose you are an elf with AI agility who has a fear of elbows and could reasonably dodge that elbow...
The tall, muscular man nudges you in the side with an elbow from an inch away on his bar stool.
> em just as the elbow is about to connect with @me side, they leap sideways to avoid your elbow.
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The tall, muscular man drives his elbow into you, until you fall sideways from your stool.
> em None of that actually happens, because @me leaps ten feet away immediately at your elbow movement.
The difference there is obvious.
Power emotes are emotes that MAKE you DO SOMETHING (Like fall down, laugh, cry, take off your top, swallow the spit..) and/or is a chain of things which there is reasonable time or ability to take a reaction in the course of events.
Sorry.. This is such a pet peeve of mine.
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Post by MartenBroadcloak on Apr 27, 2014 11:25:45 GMT -5
Anyway, I'm on a rant here. What were we talking about? Names?
Personally I like to pick ironic names with name meaning directories.
Like I'll have a downtrodden, angry, luckless breed who lives in the 'rinth and is destined to die young, take a name which has a meaning of "To come from high station" or "To be blessed by God" or something.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Apr 27, 2014 15:30:45 GMT -5
I like to distill an idea related to the character into a single word or 2-3 word phrase, then use google translate... This, but I translate into the Dwarf Fortress languages. There's just about every character concept you can think of in the DF vocabulary. The only difference is in Dwarf Fortress losing is fun! I normally just come up with names phonetically. It's usually some nonsense word that feels like how the character is. Im equally prone to typo a word, note that it would look cool as a character name, and remember it for the next time Immaking a character. |
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