It never got past the point of even having languages, let alone skills. It was an empty shell wherein you could do emotes and build very basic things when I saw it back in 2011. As to what happened? I don't imagine that it will ever be finished for the same reason they abandoned the setting idea (and not just the codebase idea): The promise of unrestricted play wherein players can make and build clans, clanhalls, etc, no entrenched power, no karma for anything, and so on. It would completely destroy the control structure. If you'll notice, that was even referred to in the post from adhira. 'We want to continue running a game we know how to run'.
They basically couldn't be arsed to make it. After like two and a half years I asked an admin friend of mine how far along they were, and he said nobody had really been doing any serious work on it since the first year. They made the rooms, the most basic fundamentals of the engine which allowed you to view the rooms and move in directions and such, but that's all there ever was to it. Basically no code beyond the room grid and the ability to zip around and see the descs. No objects, no manipulation commands, no chargen or skills or races. Just the most basic first step. Then it fell apart as nobody was able to maintain interest in it and/or direct the work.
Not to mention I think most of them realized it would be a monumental failure without a strong setting (darksun) backing it. Anyone who knows anything knows that Arm attracts the majority of its playerbase because of its strong unique setting.
I'm with Delerak. Most of what got me into Arm was the setting. I've very quickly turned away from MUDs (and fantasy worlds in general) which lack a sense of consistency. Whatever it may have been, Arm 2 seemed like a random smattering of locations and races. Plus it had cat people. Seriously, fuck everything with cat people in it ever. I'll make an exception to that fucking for Skyrim because it's chocked full of awesome everywhere else, and the cat people are relatively infrequent and easy to ignore. Arm 2 would not have been that chocked full of awesome. It was pile of random submissions from dozens of people. It would have just been cookie-cutter fantasy trash.
Post by BitterFlashback on Apr 13, 2014 1:10:09 GMT -5
I wish I'd noticed this thread sooner. i can tell you what killed it. I knew it was dead before it was started. see, they announced Arm 2 and said they wanted a lot of people to have input in its creation. I dont recall the specifics. But my impression was they were going to try and let a lot of the staff choose its direction.
A mud is a programming project. if you can get your own codebase uou can skip past the programming part, yes. But they weren't doing that. They were making their own codebase to support all those good ideas, iirc, at least as well as I remember it.
I know a lot of my fellow professional programmers are on this board. they're wincing at the idea of a project with a dozen or so managers. and they're remembering the term "Development Hell". Because that's what killed Arm 2. Speaking of which heres a zen riddle: What do you call scope creep in a project with no boundaries?
What I'm arguing is that there's not any valid reason to suddenly be worried that every single person in game is going to be killing you with a rageboner made of magick. People had perfectly good rageboners without magick
grumble: Triste is not a leftist. Triste is a right wing nutjob just like you.
Dec 14, 2020 9:48:05 GMT -5
grumble: Triste just happens to be trans. Imagine the irony.
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grumble: But myself, I don't take issue with there being slaves in the game, references to slaves, or that certain races are preferred as slaves in the game. Look at the Sun Runners, it's considered an honor to be one of their slaves.
Dec 14, 2020 9:50:37 GMT -5
grumble: It's all part of the history of the game. Armageddon should come with a trigger warning, if it doesn't already.
Dec 14, 2020 9:51:09 GMT -5
grumble: Necker, however much I miss saying "Sup my necker?", was a bit much. I can do without it because I see the reason why it's a bad idea. I'm not sure too many were offended but one is enough.
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someguy: Was thinking to come back and play as an elf since I won arm as a d elf and later as a c elf... then realized I'd have to revamp my vocabulary now...
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jkarr: lol yeah some idiots zoomed in to take offense on behalf of black players who didnt two shits about an ig word that some white ppl decided to treat as an ooc slur fail to split ic from ooc and then have staff cave in to their crying by litrally banning it
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