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Post by yaznokumf on Mar 19, 2014 9:51:39 GMT -5
In reference to height weight, Is there any advantage to being larger? I know if you are smaller you can ride erdlus fit into various places, weight less for the mount that carries you.
I don't know od any coded advantage to being larger. Is there one?
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Post by CRabbit on Mar 19, 2014 11:05:52 GMT -5
Height and weight effect sneak and hide I believe. It also gives an advantage to bash? Completely assuming at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2014 22:20:23 GMT -5
I think Barka would be best to answer this. Height gives a bonus to subdue, but not ability to keep a person subdued. So a very tall delf without subdue skill and shit strength can subdue others very easily. But even a drunk dwarf without legs, will be able to escape that subdue on his first try.
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Post by jkarr on Mar 19, 2014 22:22:52 GMT -5
So a very tall delf without subdue skill and shit energy can subdue others very easily. da fuck is that |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2014 0:04:47 GMT -5
Energy is a hidden stat. You can figure it out if you get the player's fatigue, multiply it by the hours spent awake, and the oz of alcohol consumed.
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Post by demonspongecake on Mar 20, 2014 5:24:16 GMT -5
I've seen an elf bash carru and southern beetles, is this bash skill, height, or both? I suppose neither are particularly tall, just heavy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2014 6:16:05 GMT -5
Could potentially be just the level of skill/offense. A ranger without bash and regardless of height can reverse kicks and bash if his defense skill is significantly higher.
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Post by mekillot on Mar 20, 2014 6:24:39 GMT -5
Size score. Height in inches and weight in ten-stone are worth points.
Look at the size helpfile. There's a formula I figured out, with a little help, a while back.
Everyone's size score is based off of that.
Size hinders sneak stuff. Hide/Sneak
Size helps combat stuff. Subdue/Bash
It matters in relation to a rooms max character size limit. (Which oddly is separate from a weight limit, as far as I can tell.)
Height matters, obviously, much more then weight, in the end score.
Size also determines what mounts you can ride. Like erdlu only take size 9 (maybe 10) or less.
Edit:If I remember right, one Size score has a max range of 8 points.
So to be size 11, the biggest size score you can have is 88. Humans max at 86 points, but this is still size 11. Size 10 would end? at 80 points. So from 81-88 is Size 11.
Actually this isn't quite right, but really really close.
I'm still forgetting a small bit of something. Elves always threw off the formula until I made one other breakthrough.
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Post by tektolnes on Mar 20, 2014 9:53:18 GMT -5
^ What mek said.
I don't know about the numbers, but small characters are better at sneak/hide and large characters are better at subdue/bash. (Half-giant bash/subdue is crazy off the bat.) And interestingly, elves are actually pretty damn good at bash.
What I'm curious about is whether size effects stats? One of my big obsessions when I was new was finding the best height/weight range for good stats. Average/middle seemed to me to always crank out the best results. I'm wondering if this was a real observation, or superstition?
Side note: If you play a max size HG, the only common mount in the game that can carry you is the plain old "an inix" you buy from Tuluk. No black or silver or sandy will do.
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Post by CRabbit on Mar 20, 2014 10:35:51 GMT -5
I've seen an elf bash carru and southern beetles, is this bash skill, height, or both? I suppose neither are particularly tall, just heavy. You cant bash things "alot" larger than yourself. Guessing that elf was closer to the height of the carru in question. Same goes for mounts and charge and trample. Cant against things larger than the mount. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2014 12:12:34 GMT -5
Height is a huge (ha pun) factor in both performing and defending against bash. Max-height elves are nearly impossible to bash and can counter-bash dwarves and short humans right out of the box. It also affects subdue somewhat, but I believe strength is the greater factor there. Elves never felt particularly great at subduing to me, so I think their strength penalty cancels out their height advantage whereas the bash bonus from being 94 inches tall is immense (haha pun again). Skill level aside, I'd say subdue is 50/50 size and strength while bash is 90% height.
It's also generally understood that having a high combined height and weight for your race gives you a bonus to strength and/or endurance while low weight gives bonus to agility, but I've never had this confirmed nor done enough stathunting to test it. I do know that a max height/weight human warrior will get exceptional strength almost every time if prioritizing it first, though.
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