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Post by RogueCumSlinger on Mar 1, 2014 17:51:51 GMT -5
A sand-filled sparring dummy is standing here, rigid and unmoving.
Can you skill-up weapon styles/skills on sparring dummies? To apprentice? To journeyman?
Can you skill-up archery on sparring dummies?
Other info about sparring, etc. Just dump it, folks.
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Post by Patuk on Mar 1, 2014 18:04:04 GMT -5
No. Go have fun someplace else instead. You're wasting your time not practicing guard/rescue with these. Dummies are a joke.
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Post by RogueCumSlinger on Mar 1, 2014 18:12:11 GMT -5
No. Go have fun someplace else instead. You're wasting your time not practicing guard/rescue with these. Dummies are a joke. Please leave shit answers at the door. |
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Post by Lizzie on Mar 1, 2014 18:54:07 GMT -5
They're being honest. Sparring Dummies are like dart boards. You can't fail on them.
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Post by Patuk on Mar 1, 2014 19:18:41 GMT -5
Swearing and insulting is more fun, though.
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Post by RogueCumSlinger on Mar 1, 2014 20:14:22 GMT -5
I've raised a weapon style on a sparring dummy before, with no misses. This was within the last year.
Yeah, I called your answer shit. First off, it's wrong. Like I said, I've raised a skill. I'm just curious if anyone is knowledgeable of any caps on these skills, or the archery tidbit. You also said to practice guard/rescue on them, and then called them a joke. Do you not think raising guard and rescue is useful or what? Also, sparring dummies are pretty much only used in clans with no access to better means of constant combat skill grinding-- so yeah, telling people to go have fun someplace else is shitty.
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Post by Sleaford on Mar 1, 2014 20:35:06 GMT -5
Did someone piss in your cornflakes or something? The guy gave you an answer based on his own experience, you jump down his throat for it.
You can easily leave it at "I could've sworn I've raised skills on dummies in the past, can anyone corroborate this?". Or bring that relevant point up in the first post.
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Post by RogueCumSlinger on Mar 1, 2014 20:55:00 GMT -5
Did someone piss in your cornflakes or something? The guy gave you an answer based on his own experience, you jump down his throat for it. You can easily leave it at "I could've sworn I've raised skills on dummies in the past, can anyone corroborate this?". Or bring that relevant point up in the first post. I never really liked the dude in the first place. The whole 'yeah, Nyr contacted me and said he was fine with me posting here' thing is all kind of sketch, plus the post was really shit. I'm not going to be passive aggressive about it. |
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Post by topkekm8s on Mar 1, 2014 22:21:27 GMT -5
dummies are generally a waste of time
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Post by lyse on Mar 1, 2014 23:52:02 GMT -5
They should be used for archery practice, but isn't that frowned upon?
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Post by Lizzie on Mar 2, 2014 0:40:13 GMT -5
I can't imagine why it would be. They'd be great for archery practice, and that's a lot more realistic than riding out into the danger of the wastes to practice bulls-eying womp rats in your T-16.
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Post by nobody on Mar 2, 2014 4:17:19 GMT -5
I have raised a skill up by using a dummy, and I don't think it was a miss either. Hmm. Might have been two-handed from novice to apprentice but, and we've learned that it does go up by just using the skill. I really can't remember if I got a secondary weapon skill I focused on to get from novice to apprentice as well, hrm. Fight them with your fists, you will miss, that should raise offense skill? Also I've had weapon misses too, usually when dualwielding and at starting skill on a ranger.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2014 4:55:40 GMT -5
It is possible to raise a weapon skill on a dummy. But we're talking very very very novice levels. I would say mid apprentice or beginnings of journeyman is too high. Not that you wont improve, but you'll improve so slowly that a single proper spar with another pc will equal rl week of dummy practice. Or some similar thing. They're excellent for 3rd body during rescue/guard practice though. Especially in clans lacking enough members.
In the end. You can master a crafting skill by spam crafting the very first recipe that you can make at novice. It will just take you 50x times longer and involve a lot of spamming. Dummy's kind of the same.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2014 5:18:02 GMT -5
Off-topic anecdote: it's actually often easier/cheaper to master a craft by using the lower-level recipes. Usually the components for the first recipes are free or cheap enough that you can easily burn through the ten or so attempts it takes to get a failure with less investment than trying one or two of the expensive recipes. Clothworking, for instance, is best maxed by spamming the cheap Red Storm sandcloth crafts whereas trying to use silk and bonings/buttons for the high-level crafts would be prohibitively expensive.
But yeah, training dummies are very close to worthless for sparring with. They're "paralyzed" so you'll only miss attacks on critical failures or however that works. You also can't kick, bash or subdue them properly, backstab/sap isn't allowed, and shooting at them is a bit iffy because often the adjacent room is a mess hall or something like that.
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Post by Patuk on Mar 2, 2014 5:36:48 GMT -5
They should be used for archery practice, but isn't that frowned upon? I don't think it is? It makes perfect sense to start out training archery on stationary targets. |
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