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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 0:55:24 GMT -5
Frankly, any talk of 'breaking' the game seems ridiculous to me. Yeah you can probably do it if you want to, but ultimately it's Tiernan who has the codebase and servers, and if he or one of the other Producers decides it's the right time and place, they can always just shut the entire damn game down so it's kind of a moot point and seems like a hollow gesture. Sure you can break their toy, but they can always take the pieces away and leave no one with any part of a toy which would probably suck worse.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Feb 19, 2014 1:37:13 GMT -5
When I read these boards, my impression is that people are venting, rather than trying to be effective at sharing information. Neither of these are positive or negative, but rather revealing some ugly base motivations. As a long-time player, abstainer, player again, and abstainer again, I think I can boil this down for you. It's less base. It's more anti-censorship. this kind of thing is pretty normal for any repressed group when introduced to freedom. Try posting even constructive criticism on the gdb. Good luck avoiding the tardpiling. Once you get one or two researchers together with a half dozen goal driven players, its very possible to break a game. Regardless of how character growth is achieved, the end result is characters who are multiplicatively more powerful, and with a much faster rate of growth to that power level. You can't break arm. The imms meddle too much. Don't believe me? That's fair; let's research. Go to Tuluk. spam up an assassin. Join a clan. Report to your clan imm you're going to kill a sponsored PC. You'll be up to your ass in NPC templars/legion. With this said, is your goal to break the game? Is it to find a welcoming social group of likeminded people since the GDB is clearly populated by a very different mentality of participant? Is it to grief the current admin staff? To find a next game to get into? Something else? Inquiring rabbits want to know. My personal impression was this board has a few purposes. Freedom from censorship. A support group. A GDB without the bullshit underhanded insults hidden beneath the pretense of politeness. Well, with that, but with the ability to beat someone about the head for it. A place for leveling real criticism at Arm. And a place for gaming discussions.
See from my end of things, it often feels (mostly from the GDB) that there is this air of elitism that surrounds most the vetted players. New players, when discovered, are often treated like special children... and oh nothing ends a scene more then screwing up an emote or something. These "elites" seem to be annoyed by most newbies, like how dare a new person join into THEIR game and dare try to ROLE PLAY. I feel at times all new players are to either go straight to the Byn or just be some back ground character... no better then vnpc's. I used to enjoy RPing as a newbie at times. It turns people's OOC abuse against them. Also no one has patience for you, to figure out an emote, to work out your characters reaction. To teach or bother with you at all, they almost out right refuse. Not for in character motivations, but clearly OOC motivated, you're new, and therefore... uninteresting, soon to die, and worthless to them. They don't care about bringing people into the fold, or sharing their joy with others... its something only for them, and their close knit OOC friends they always some how... play with no matter how unrealistic it is. What's sad about this is I was one of those people who liked promising noobs. Especially a good RPer new to Arm. You want to make sure they have a good experience. because it's so hard to find people who aren't shits. Sometimes the good experience ends weeks later with getting totally fucked over in a way that captures the game. Because if you do your job right, they'll eventually roll up a bastard to bastard alongside you. And maybe betray you too.  Oh I hate the GDB's "Find out IC" XD If the GDB had a searchable thesaurus that would return "Fuck off, n00b." And even then, for all their well typed, flowery emotes, and all that jazz... all their characters fall flat... one dimensional, shallow characters, with one weak gimmick (secret magicker, really a half-elf, etc) but you never see it in they way the speak, or act, or anything. All those things have these strange OOC motivations surrounding them. Like they more concerned about driving some plot, then actually being the character. Their only IN character when they communicate... they aren't actually playing that character. They don't allow them selves to struggle, to fail, or to do much of anything interesting. Yet these "characters" seem to get the fav's, cause they help rail road the plots, they don't act human (or I guess in a fantasy setting "A person") they act like machines, machines that occasionally talk with a funny accent. additional rantingI'm currently shopping online for engagement rings. what's your size? I can't agree enough. I used to get pissed at the description nazis as we used to call them. They spend so long painting a scene they choke on the fumes. Their dialogue was lackluster. their characters bland. I got so sick of it I went to minimalist emotes because i started seeing dialog emotes as visual spam. That was prior to my original quit. it wouldn't identify me now. Anyhow, if I emoted something it was important in some way. Body language, emphasis, etc. I felt people had better things to do than see descriptions of clothing rustling and how the light catches it before receiving their allotment of spoken bland. |
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Post by Prime Minister Sinister on Feb 19, 2014 4:02:52 GMT -5
Go to Tuluk. spam up an assassin. Join a clan. Report to your clan imm you're going to kill a sponsored PC. You'll be up to your ass in NPC templars/legion. That's why you just don't tell them.  Oh wait.... They'll just rape your karma and rez the target. Nevermind. |
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Post by BitterFlashback on Feb 20, 2014 21:16:37 GMT -5
Go to Tuluk. spam up an assassin. Join a clan. Report to your clan imm you're going to kill a sponsored PC. You'll be up to your ass in NPC templars/legion. That's why you just don't tell them. Oh wait.... They'll just rape your karma and rez the target. Nevermind. Exactly. It was a sugestion for vorpal. to help him research if the game could be broken by players alone. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2014 0:50:57 GMT -5
Respectfully, I dont think that qualifies for a game break. Twinking any pc runs the risk of having karma removed, getting account notes, or worst of all... being insignificant despite the grind.
I was able to come up with three serious breaks of the game, but my intent isnt to forment rebellion or encourage griefing. I respect that work was done to build the game, even if have my disagreements with some of the current direction.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Feb 21, 2014 2:15:14 GMT -5
Respectfully, I dont think that qualifies for a game break. No worries. That's because you're reading it out of context. I originally suggested it to you as a research point. if you believe players can break the game with information, trying my suggestion would give you empirical evidence to the contrary.
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Post by topkekm8s on Feb 26, 2014 16:38:15 GMT -5
I made a couple posts about the "metagame" on the gdb and I was harangued and ostracized so hard I had to backpeddle ad infinitum just to appease the angry tumblrsphere masses
shit was traumatizing
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Post by Patuk on Feb 26, 2014 17:06:15 GMT -5
Yeah, the gdb does not appreciate its views being challenged. Good luck with that.
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