Kronibas 2.0
Displaced Tuluki
this account will go inactive once I hit 420 posts
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Post by Kronibas 2.0 on Dec 16, 2014 23:04:45 GMT -5
We need an irc. Would be great
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my2sids
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Post by my2sids on Dec 16, 2014 23:04:51 GMT -5
I don't really know Adhira personally, I just don't see a reason to be malicious to people I've never met. That's some weird priorities you have.
Sirra, I think you and me were pretty cool for a while but I'm sorry man.... Being a decent human being doesn't make me a suckup.
I can uh, not want people to die in a fire if I disagree with their MUD game policies.
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malkeninthemiddle
Displaced Tuluki
Black woman lawyer on a television morning show
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Post by malkeninthemiddle on Dec 16, 2014 23:07:26 GMT -5
Is there a way to PM here, Ambroise? I don't want to share this with everyone, especially people who would take a piss on a person's personal problems.
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Post by sirra on Dec 16, 2014 23:07:56 GMT -5
I don't really know Adhira personally, I just don't see a reason to be malicious to people I've never met. That's some weird priorities you have. Sirra, I think you and me were pretty cool for a while but I'm sorry man.... Being a decent human being doesn't make me a suckup. I can uh, not want people to die in a fire if I disagree with their MUD game policies. It's the fact that she uses it as pity-seeking behavior to try and excuse herself from the many corrupt and unethical developments she's presided over. Listen. Life can go through periods where it sucks. And that's bad. I wish Adhira, Ness and Nyr had happier lives. They would probably be better staffers. But it's complete bullshit to wave the tear-stained hanky around and expect the rest of us to observe a moment of respectful silence and refrain from criticizing them. Adhira deserves all the criticism she receives and a lot more. And nothing about her personal tribulations should be used to excuse it. It's not like this hasn't been going on for years. Staff shouldn't be addicted to affirmation-seeking behavior. I.e, where they bitch about their lives, and everyone comforts and consoles them and tells them how great they are. That goes on way too much among staff.
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delerak
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"When you want to fool the world, tell the truth." - Otto Von Bismarck
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Post by delerak on Dec 17, 2014 0:12:55 GMT -5
Shall we turn the looking glass on you Sirra? Don't be so quick to judge people you don't even know. Unless you want to do it on camera, with full confidence. Then I'll respect your opinions but until then just flaming Arm staff is pointless.
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jkarr
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Post by jkarr on Dec 17, 2014 0:21:30 GMT -5
im with sirra
all the callous aside, sure knowing the prob can help understand but it never justifies being a placeholder for a job that requires more than shes giving (for whatever reason). being in a shitty situation warrants no sympathy when ur punishing players and other staff by not doing the right thing and moving aside to let someone who can give the position the time and work it needs
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Post by Tektrollnes on Dec 17, 2014 0:24:21 GMT -5
Find out in game.
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delerak
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"When you want to fool the world, tell the truth." - Otto Von Bismarck
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Post by delerak on Dec 17, 2014 0:25:21 GMT -5
I don't have any sympathy for Adhira. I don't know her nor care. It's not about that. It's about pointing fingers at them and mocking them for refusing to acknowledge the decay of the game.
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malkeninthemiddle
Displaced Tuluki
Black woman lawyer on a television morning show
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Post by malkeninthemiddle on Dec 17, 2014 0:37:47 GMT -5
So Adhira could have stepped down when she knew she couldn't offer the minimal amount of time you people think someone should offer to keep the game properly running, so that would have left Nessalin as the only Producer around, because, let's be honest, Morgenes has been focusing on mostly just the code part of the game for a lot longer than he 'officially' announced it. That would leave .. Shit, I don't even know anymore who is who Staff wise, it's been like a revolving door the last few years. My choice would have been with Rathustra, but I have a feeling that they already thought about him but maybe he didn't want the burden? Maybe he likes it where he is. Who then? Hey guys, your new producers will be WugWugWugWugWug and .. Huh.. Maeve?
Yeah, why not, Nessalin, Wug and Maeve! No idea who these last two are but I heard their names mentioned recently so I'm guessing they would be in the pool, aside from Nyr, who had already been a Producer for a few months a couple years back.
So I don't know, how about Nessalin, Nyr and that chick who banned me, Wenda? Anyone knows anything about Wenda? Not me.. Doubt she would have done anything more than Adhira already did/does.
Give me some names.. You can't pick Calavera or Shaloon, they're both gone. Talia is too new, she's not even out of the Storyteller pool yet I think.
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Post by lulz on Dec 17, 2014 1:01:17 GMT -5
Talia is old, she just returned.
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jkarr
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Post by jkarr on Dec 17, 2014 1:04:45 GMT -5
might as well, shes basically harley quinn to mr j(offnyr)
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malkeninthemiddle
Displaced Tuluki
Black woman lawyer on a television morning show
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Post by malkeninthemiddle on Dec 17, 2014 1:08:10 GMT -5
Talia is old, she just returned. Yeah but she didn't stay very long the first time either. I mean, compared to many who are ahead of her on the Staff ladder.
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Post by sirra on Dec 17, 2014 1:08:30 GMT -5
Shall we turn the looking glass on you Sirra? Don't be so quick to judge people you don't even know. Unless you want to do it on camera, with full confidence. Then I'll respect your opinions but until then just flaming Arm staff is pointless. I'm not forcing anyone else to take my shit. I'm not babysitting them, and I'm not acting like their lord and master, while at the same time needing a pity party every other week. I could care less about most Arm staff. It's only Nyr, Adhira and Nessalin that I have a problem with. Though many of the rest are motivated by selfish reasons as well. My problem is, specifically, that they are unethical pieces of shit who use the game more as their own therapy than as actually running it, or 'producing' content. I know them well enough to know I'm not missing out on any great insight needed to understand their behavior. I don't care about their sad personal lives. There is more than enough evidence to judge their performance as producers and staff. And I'm not going to let some sob story excuse them from valid criticism. It's been ten+ years. Did I put it harshly? I guess so. But I just don't see the point tiptoeing around people's feelings, when these same people don't care about anyone else's feelings than their own.'Turn the looking glass' on me. What does that even mean? Who have I ever driven away from Armageddon. Whose account notes have I ever sabotaged. Whose ability to enjoy the game has ever been determined by my authority. I've had tragedy in my life. You've had tragedy in your life. But this is our hobby, if you're going to make a pretense at staffing a game, then be staff. And nothing I've said, is nothing you haven't said at other times, Delerak. Do you want a picture of my dick or something, before you respect my opinion? Do I need to talk about the sad things that have happened in my life? We all go through ordeals. It's no excuse for being a shitty, corrupt and unethical staffer that refuses to move on and resign half a decade after most rational actors would have.
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Post by lulz on Dec 17, 2014 1:13:32 GMT -5
I could care less about most Arm staff. Sorry, I just fucking had to.
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Post by sirra on Dec 17, 2014 1:21:40 GMT -5
I could care less about most Arm staff. Sorry, I just fucking had to. Most Arm staff, I said!
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