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Post by Azerbanjani on Apr 1, 2023 15:14:10 GMT -5
Still think its funny they didn't actually extend unbanning people, they did the standard 'You must come to us and beg to be unbanned' shtick but just happened to say it directly this time.
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Post by mehtastic on Apr 2, 2023 7:07:48 GMT -5
With 12 new accounts this week, it seems like people are just making new accounts instead of asking to be unbanned. I can't say I blame them - if I wanted to play Arm and I was banned, I would rather make a new account and go under the radar than ask to be unbanned.
Asking to be unbanned feels like the "motorboat raffle" trick from The Simpsons, where the police invite people they consider "scofflaws" to a fake raffle just to round them up and arrest them. Asking to be unbanned is asking to be watched with extra scrutiny by staff that have been known to drop strong aggressive NPCs on people with low social credit scores. Make a new account, and you're like an entirely new person to them.
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Post by jesantu on Apr 2, 2023 8:00:14 GMT -5
With 12 new accounts this week, it seems like people are just making new accounts instead of asking to be unbanned. I can't say I blame them - if I wanted to play Arm and I was banned, I would rather make a new account and go under the radar than ask to be unbanned. Asking to be unbanned feels like the "motorboat raffle" trick from The Simpsons, where the police invite people they consider "scofflaws" to a fake raffle just to round them up and arrest them. Asking to be unbanned is asking to be watched with extra scrutiny by staff that have been known to drop strong aggressive NPCs on people with low social credit scores. Make a new account, and you're like an entirely new person to them. The next indie hunter you meet in Luir's could be Shalooonsh circumventing his ban. You'll know it's him if he OOCs asking if he can add you on instagram.
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Post by ask on Apr 2, 2023 12:54:04 GMT -5
With 12 new accounts this week, it seems like people are just making new accounts instead of asking to be unbanned. I can't say I blame them - if I wanted to play Arm and I was banned, I would rather make a new account and go under the radar than ask to be unbanned. Asking to be unbanned feels like the "motorboat raffle" trick from The Simpsons, where the police invite people they consider "scofflaws" to a fake raffle just to round them up and arrest them. Asking to be unbanned is asking to be watched with extra scrutiny by staff that have been known to drop strong aggressive NPCs on people with low social credit scores. Make a new account, and you're like an entirely new person to them. But unbans were supposed to be high priority tickets, I thought?! That's why, of course, the 2 that were resolved took 10 days and 6 staff kudos have taken 0.3.
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Post by mehtastic on Apr 2, 2023 14:58:44 GMT -5
I can't recall a time I ever felt ill reading a GDB post, but this one came pretty close
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Post by delirium on Apr 2, 2023 15:02:52 GMT -5
I can't recall a time I ever felt ill reading a GDB post, but this one came pretty close I literally just checked in on the GDB for the first time in a while to see what it was like and it was amazing in a sad, sickening way. I really hope it was an april fools' style post. I really, really hope. As I said elsewhere, since I don't intend to play again due to several factors (including repeatedly shooting the messenger, gaslighting, and unhealthy timesink) and I am not convinced they've committed to the kind of transparency and change necessary to make the game a genuinely healthy place to participate in... per Halaster's post, I'm not welcome to post or be part of the community, even if it's to offer constructive criticism or advice. That was made very clear. I think that's the most damning part, in a way. "If you don't drink the koolaid, GTFO." ... okay? Your loss, brosephs.
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Post by dumpsterfirediva on Apr 2, 2023 19:44:33 GMT -5
I can't recall a time I ever felt ill reading a GDB post, but this one came pretty close I literally just checked in on the GDB for the first time in a while to see what it was like and it was amazing in a sad, sickening way. I really hope it was an april fools' style post. I really, really hope. As I said elsewhere, since I don't intend to play again due to several factors (including repeatedly shooting the messenger, gaslighting, and unhealthy timesink) and I am not convinced they've committed to the kind of transparency and change necessary to make the game a genuinely healthy place to participate in... per Halaster's post, I'm not welcome to post or be part of the community, even if it's to offer constructive criticism or advice. That was made very clear. I think that's the most damning part, in a way. "If you don't drink the koolaid, GTFO." ... okay? Your loss, brosephs.
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Post by Barsook on Apr 2, 2023 20:04:50 GMT -5
Full guild elementalists are somewhat back via spec app. I wonder how well this will go....
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Post by pinkerdlu on Apr 2, 2023 20:27:49 GMT -5
Whoever spec apps a gemmed elementalist, idek what to say. I'll pray for you.
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Post by jesantu on Apr 2, 2023 20:55:04 GMT -5
As utterly dead as the game is they should be pulling out all the stops. Why must full mages be gemmed? That wouldn't have anything to do with control, would it? If I were watching the ship sink this fast I'd try everything. What do I have to lose at this point? I'd be throwing magick rings around and animating like my game depended on it. I don't think staff fully realize just how dire this situation is. They must be thinking "it'll turn around in a week or so".
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Post by baobob on Apr 2, 2023 21:33:42 GMT -5
Personally, I think they are ignoring the things they have to do to actually right the ship in favor of trying the same shtick with a tiny few flashes.
I feel that there are some "right now" things that should have come out already. Full gemmed spec apps wasn't one of them.
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Post by ask on Apr 2, 2023 23:31:55 GMT -5
They want them gemmed so they don't have to watch them and can shove it off on the Allanaki templar, who, lol. Just... lol.
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Post by lechuck on Apr 3, 2023 3:53:41 GMT -5
They also used to require that players' first magicker was gemmed. Don't know if that's still a thing, but it was before the elementalist subclasses. I remember spec-apping a mage and it was declined because I hadn't intended it to be gemmed. They told me since it would be my first mage, it had to be gemmed.
It's really just a way to ensure that the character can't accomplish much. Since there's no longer any such thing as CAM or anything like that, gemmed PCs are severely limited in what they can do because they have no support network. At best they might have the ear of some Oash noble, which counts for practically nothing in today's Armageddon where nobles are largely pointless and have no influence on the Text Skyrim meta where everyone's off playing in tribes or roaming the world as lone rangers. Meanwhile, being gemmed restricts you from joining practically any clan, makes you completely unwelcome in large segments of the gameworld, and ensures that almost nobody will work with you in any capacity.
Basically, requiring that entire categories of PCs be gemmed is them saying "we're willing to give you what you asked for, but we're going to make sure you can do as little as possible with it because we didn't really want you to have it in the first place. Ideally it'll be so unenjoyable that people stop playing it. That's our goal, but we have to put up the pretense of listening to players." It's almost like malicious compliance. The gemmed role is practically incompatible with today's Armageddon.
It's certainly not a question of carefully managing their power. With very few exceptions, mundanes with elementalist subclasses are much stronger than the old full-fledged magickers were. Most of those had only a handful of spells that were actually powerful, and the elementalist subs generally cover those. For instance, the bulk of a full Rukkian's power came from the Strength, Armor and Stoneskin/Godspeed spells, and the Rukkian Empowerment sub gives all of those. The omegapwn instakill spells (Demonfire, Paralyze, etc.) have been removed from the game entirely, so a full elementalist won't really have more offensive power than a mundane of the right class since they're now limited to mediocre spells like Lightning Bolt which generally aren't much more powerful than backstab, high-strength melee, or master archery. Often less so, in fact, especially given the mana cost of any mon spell.
People asked for full magickers to return not just because they missed that playstyle but also because the game was way more balanced in those days. Mages had weaknesses and limitations. While they could be very powerful, they weren't completely broken the way they became with the subclasses. A maxed-out Krathi might be scary, but he didn't also have master parry and weapon skills or master stealth and scan, and if you caught him when he was out of mana or didn't have his buffs up, he'd be very vulnerable. It meant that if you ended up in conflict with a mage, you had options. I think that when people started asking for full mages back, a lot of the time they were really asking for the game to return to the way it was in those days. Adding full mages on top of the subclasses doesn't accomplish that, and I don't think it'll have much of an impact on anything. People will try those characters and find that they're way worse than mundane classes with elementalist subs, and then they'll just go back to playing those.
The meta has shifted to one where being fully self-sufficient is important because you're usually on your own and most gameplay takes place in the wilderness. A gemmed full elementalist made more sense back when the game revolved around the cities and when characters were either pure mundanes or full mages, not some overpowered mix.
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Post by mehtastic on Apr 3, 2023 4:17:50 GMT -5
I read the gemmed mage thing as a very weak attempt at encouraging activity within Allanak. The primary complaint about the game seems to be that nothing happens, and nothing happens even more in the cities. As lechuck said, the game has become a wilderness survival simulator. This call ensures that some PCs will at least be based out of Allanak.
Of course, when people ask for "more activity in the cities", they probably do not mean adding more isolated roles to the game, but just making them city-based. This is a true case of the monkey's paw curling.
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Post by Barsook on Apr 3, 2023 4:34:02 GMT -5
Most roles are iso now, even the city ones.
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