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Post by BitterFlashback on Aug 27, 2017 16:39:08 GMT -5
Quote from MeTekillot in Ask the Staff: "Has there been discussion about gypsy being allowed wide use in game despite its use as a real-world slur?" gdb.armageddon.org/index.php/topic,52874.msg995345.html?PHPSESSID=58blfrkmnq42gpktc0o0bdbv46#new -- Wonder how they're gonna spin this one? It would have probably helped them spin it if the Tan Muark weren't a bunch of magic-practicing thieves and whores.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 11:59:34 GMT -5
Yeah, I was not trying to be racial or ugly... it was totally a direct quote but people who hadn't seen the post obviously wouldn't recognize that. I grew up in the state with the highest per capita black population and don't take things like that lightly, but yeah, my bad for not clearly indicating that it was a direct quote from Noted Liar Noted Liar Noted Liar Noted Liar Nergal. For the record, I was completely aware that it was a direct quote, it doesn't mean that you couldn't edit it. Personally, I get unhinged about people who use this word, I have been on the receiving end of this and I in NO way appreciate it being tossed around. I refuse to use my leisure time to peruse a board where people are freely using this word to whatever end. It only takes 1 person to start using something and the floodgates are opened. Again, this is from someone who has grown up being black not from a state with a high black population. Hence my rage and my $0.02 Do a google news search for the word in question and "gone with the wind." One of the first articles you'll see is from the Guardian, an extremely left-leaning newspaper, that uses the word in full - in context - to discuss a piece of fiction. Studying Faulkner in the Deep South, well, the word cropped up a lot as well, often with many black people in the class. anyway, it's jcarter's board and he's already made the call... so, I'm not trying to argue about the word having a place here - even within the context of a work of fiction or in relation to what someone else said - nor did I intend on being offensive in any way whatsoever. I believe you can feel confident that, under any circumstances, it won't appear on these forums again. Cheers.
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Post by grumble on Sept 23, 2017 13:02:24 GMT -5
It's really a shame you can't direct-quote a line from staff to make a point because they may have used a word that violates Proboards' ToS because some basement-dwelling neckbeard is waiting to pounce on it like a big bag of cheetos to report it in the hopes of getting the boards shut down.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 23:19:39 GMT -5
It’s been a while since people came to post horror stories of dealing with the staff here.
Maybe that means things have actually improved a tad?
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Post by BitterFlashback on Mar 6, 2018 23:56:06 GMT -5
It’s been a while since people came to post horror stories of dealing with the staff here. Maybe that means things have actually improved a tad? That, or everyone's dead.
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Post by OT on Mar 7, 2018 12:23:07 GMT -5
Of the dozen players I keep in touch with on social media, two still play.
From their account, the game hasn't moved forward in years. Nothing's really changing. The game chugs along, and the two who play say that it's something of a welcome change from the time when Nyr was chopping off pieces of content on a regular basis--but it's still a game where nothing noteworthy happens.
I might make a character when the new class changes go in, just to see what it's all about. Until then, I take the general absence of activity on the forums as an indicator of the game's vibrancy. People will post when something big happens. If they don't post, well...
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Post by shakes on Mar 8, 2018 12:39:35 GMT -5
Got banned for killing a newbie. Discuss.
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Post by jkarr on Mar 8, 2018 13:26:23 GMT -5
Got banned for killing a newbie. Discuss. what happened and why are they expecting their ooc status which ur not expected to know anyways to guide ur ic behavior
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Post by OT on Mar 8, 2018 13:34:59 GMT -5
I'm guessing there's probably more to it than "spotless player killed one newbie and was instantly banned."
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Post by eru on Mar 8, 2018 13:55:47 GMT -5
What the fuck happened to ganking newbies just to sell their boots? Welcome to Armageddon.
The game is dead.
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Post by shakes on Mar 8, 2018 14:14:06 GMT -5
I'm guessing there's probably more to it than "spotless player killed one newbie and was instantly banned." You're right. Technically it was my second newbie. I followed all the protocols .. I wished up, well in advance, on both. The first was a prostitute I lured into a dwarven tenement and murdered. The dwarven shopkeeper NPC told the Templars who then arrested me. Half His Arm turned out for the murder of an unaffiliated whore. The second was an elven thief who spam-robbed me in Luir's. He failed and got dragged off to the jail. I looked in my inventory and noticed a bunch of stuff gone. Can I get my stuff back from that thief you just hauled off? Nope. Can I bribe a guard to let me into the cell to maim him? Nope. So I punched the half-elf stablehand in the face, got arrested for it, and went in the cell and beat the elf unconscious. Consent to maim? Nope. So I emoted that I brutally kicked his unconscious form after I took my stuff back. He emoted something about being undamaged because of his elven superiority. What? So annoyed by the poor RP, I killed him. (After wishing up that I was about to kill him.) They then wished down to complain about it being a newbie and said I was "power emoting" about kicking him on the ground. Really? Was he going to resist being kicked while he's unconscious? I then said that, if at any point during the 20 minute ordeal where I'd wished up my intentions at least 4 times you'd said it was a newbie, I'd have abandoned that. There's no newbie flag. Only they know who is a newbie unless the person just ABSOLUTELY sucks at rp. So what exactly is wishing up prior to a PK about anyway? I learned everything I needed about their attitude towards death when they let elves kill me in the mul outpost by shooting arrows into the building, restored a gick from the dead after me and a buddy killed him, and then threatened me for killing too many people when I was the Face of the Guild, you know, the Guild. That shadowy league of assassins who gets paid to kill people. A good portion of the playerbase I enjoyed playing with. Didn't really know any of them outside of their characters. They could have been someone I couldn't stand on the forum but if they played their character OK, I was fine with it. But my interactions with the majority of staff just continued to go downhill the longer I played. In all my characters, I really only ever had one I considered great (Butcher Brons). That whole story arc really went well, I thought. I received a lot of kudos for him and enjoyed the play. But I never really could recapture that magic. As far as I'm concerned, there's no game there unless you're in the Guild and actively pursuing plots.
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Post by OT on Mar 8, 2018 14:46:28 GMT -5
The whole wishing up thing is a farce. When I was hired to assassinate a noble, it took two attempts and I wished up on both occasions. Neither time, a staff member actually had time to look, and they still tried to give me shit for it afterwards because I had done it without the full choreopgraphy of "planned murder."
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Post by shakes on Mar 8, 2018 15:13:40 GMT -5
Who knew? I mean, they laid out the rules and I followed them. In one PK report you got an imm saying, "it's all cool, this is great" and then later you've got a different imm complaining about the very same thing.
I accidentally killed several people with sap. Wasn't my intention. I asked what could I do to maybe mitigate that. I got one response which said, "maybe just emote that you sapped them." Really? I had no idea that might work. I'll try that next time on the sergeant of His Arm and let you know how it goes. Another response said, "sometimes when you hit someone in the head with a big stone hammer, they die." Well, clearly that is correct. But then 2 years later I get complaints about how all of staff was watching in horror at how many people I accidentally killed. What?
It's like dealing with a dozen psychotic parents who don't communicate with each other. For one action you get rewarded, then later you get punished. It's really no wonder the majority of the playerbase sits in the bar and does mudsex rather than actually take any risks. Even if you survive the risk you took, you won't survive the blowback from staff.
I feel like I owe this board an apology. I saw all the horror stories and thought, "wow, what a bunch of malcontents. I'm sure that won't happen to me." And I then just avoided the complaints and searched for the useful information. Now I see that it's really going to happen to anyone who gets outside the ever-shrinking box the staff at Armageddon is drawing. Or who, you know, murders, betrays, and corrupts.
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Post by shakes on Mar 8, 2018 15:17:21 GMT -5
Not that some of you aren't clearly just malcontents.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2018 15:33:53 GMT -5
What I think’s odd is how they will single out a person like this (which, admittedly, I didn’t know they were policing PKs as such) but then, with only the shallowest of plotlines, create a murder RPT to wipe out the Byn when it’s literally so successful that it’s giving the illusion of interfering with populating clans that the imms have an interest in.
With the case of the last Byn murder rpt I was a part of, Nyr was trying to get recruits for his new northern templars when they did away with the two orders. So, killing off a huge section of the largest military clan allowed him to easily recruit. And that’s exactly what he did.
If the staff is going to fuck with players about killing other PCs, well, then clan-wiping RPTs like that as well as other situations should be totally inexcusable and certainly not arbitrarily thrown at some groups.
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