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Post by desertman on Feb 10, 2016 15:50:49 GMT -5
Don't call us, we'll call you. *yawn* This conversation is over. If you choose to continue to invest your time into it, that is your decision. You will not be allowed any further responses from my end.
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Post by punished ppurg on Feb 10, 2016 16:10:21 GMT -5
He wasn't informed of the rules, he was informed of an arbitrary decision at the time, a decision which has always been based on preference and nepotism, not fairness and decency. This isn't accurate.
I've made my opinion on the topic known. My opinion won't be changing on it.
If any other parties choose to disagree further that is fine but I will agree to disagree with you.
I respect your opinion, I just choose to not invest any more personally into the discussion.
But you are completely wrong. In the discussion, I wasn't stopped with a message, "Only the character's player can submit a resurrection request." If I had, and there had not been an immediate argument of semantics following my inquiry, things would have been different. Obviously, these three were covering for each other's mistakes. If you took the time to actually read the thread of responses, and not speak out of an ignorant bias of what you believe to be the case, you'd see that. If I had received that response out of the front, then I would have accepted that. However, Talia, Nyr, and Cavaticus continued to misrepresent the event by creating ludicrous IC excuses, and arguing code semantics so terribly that a college professor would fail them in Prog 1. I've always said that if I had been treated decently and spoken to decently, instead of having a half-baked excuse after excuse thrown in my face again and again by these pathetic excuses of staff members, I would have reacted entirely differently. But I'm not the type that's going to roll over and eat whatever shit an incompetent volunteer shoves down my throat. You fall into the same trap that every other elitist GDBer falls into - you're going to accept a decision that's objectively wrong in order to maintain the karma you've "earned". It's manipulation through fear, and I'm not in a situation where I'll be afraid. If you took the time to actually read my conversations, I was polite and constructive. That was before I was insulted and threatened, which happened right off the bat - so I can understand why you didn't see that window, since it's both a very small window and also inconvenient to the caricature you're attempting to paint of me so that you can undermine my ~sacrifice~ for lack of a better term. It's disgusting, but I don't expect anything better from someone who's just unwilling to pay attention.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 19:50:31 GMT -5
Only one part of the current argument I have to disagree with.
Plenty of people gave the staff shit without pushing it so far that their GDB accounts were banned. The idea that we just silently accept problems to keep our karma isn't accurate when your idea of facing the problem head-on is to continue bickering until they to ban you. Everyone isn't going to link arms and stop playing until all new staff is elected by some majority.
Every time you make it an 'us vs them' argument where you can only be on one side or the other, you lose me. It's possible to shine a light on issues without derailing and flipping out at staff(or even just stooping to their snarky level) and labeling everyone who isn't currently up in arms as a bunch of coerced brown-nosers.
Anyone truly serious about wanting change, should be posting over there as much as over here, or even applying to staff themselves. That's hard to do if you get yourself banned.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 20:19:02 GMT -5
getting on staff might be an option for some, but i really don't think posting to the GDB will help much.
Before Nyr, casual snarkiness was something you never saw from staff. They were either nice, or zomg you fucked up now meet your doom. There's wasn't as much petty snarkiness that you see now, and I think it's because traditionally, lots of staff were older and more mature. I don't remember ever reading staff being straight up smarmy fucks like you see sometimes now, from a coupla few staffers... Maybe they saw there was no need in being rude to players like that.
I'm not going to post there as long as i'm getting banned for frivolous shit. my last experience there reaffirmed why it's a toxic piece of shit place where, if you disagree, you're punished, either blatantly or being blacklisted in ways. hell, the troll i was responding to didn't even get punished like i did.
go ahead and try to tell me it's a fair place. no. and it's a lot worse than it used to be on account of some staffers using it to unnecessarily and rudely do their brah flexes. not attractive at all from alleged stewards of the game.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 20:23:53 GMT -5
The GDB has dubbed us with a new title, The Fire Nation, and rightly or wrongly credited us with taking out Calavera: Re: Random Armageddon thoughts « Reply #62313 on: Today at 01:25:08 AM » by Tuannan "Calavera lives on in my heart though, the coolest animations and the most chipper report responses.. Then the fire nation attacked."
btw, talia always seemed like Gimfalisette to me... y/n? confirmed
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 21:05:37 GMT -5
i guess that was pretty much a captain obvious question
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 22:04:40 GMT -5
I'll say this... the only places I've been banned from were the First Judicial District of the State of Mississippi, a redneck bar where I got in a fight against two dudes making fun of me for wearing purple pants (i put up a damn good fight against those manky fucks, too), and the General Discussion Board on ArmageddonMUD.
i think all instances were pretty ridiculous to be honest...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 22:08:07 GMT -5
i guess I got banned from commenting on my home county's sheriff page for calling bullshit every time they posted weed arrests, too. also got banned from emailing the top federal weed scientist, too. hmmm.
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Post by jesantu on Feb 10, 2016 22:37:14 GMT -5
Don't call us, we'll call you. You will not be allowed any further responses from my end. That's what I was aiming for several posts ago. Enjoy the GDB.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 0:04:59 GMT -5
Let's not confuse Cavaticus with Calavera.
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Post by grumble on Feb 11, 2016 1:21:43 GMT -5
Ok, I've been thinking and, we can shit all over PPP all we want for "pushing the issue too far", while ignoring the obvious favoritism that went into the repeated ressurections of Pearl and Qoriya (I think? I don't know, I refused to play in Tuluk during that shitshow), and, while those weren't the only ones, they were just the more obvious and consistently observed.... but is it really fair, to act like, oh, your problem is you weren't nice enough? I mean, I made that argument myself, while I was of a different opinion on matters, which, look back far enough, you'll see I was totally white knighting staff and calling everyone here idiots, albeit in lolcat speak because I didn't want to get banned... I still don't want to get banned but I give less of a shit than I used to because, while staff is honestly seeming to be trying to be better to players, I'm not going to fucking stop pointing out shit that needs to be fixed...
And what's it about? Well, let's look at how my account notes got shit on, or, for a less easily sabotaged, more established player's account notes got shat on, Kronibas's... for petty reasons (elf went outside, hurf durf. Player blocked me on aim so I'll poop on his account notes and brag about molesting his unconscious form on the internet, which I actually did, and get away with it because Kronibas never did get back what he earned), or Purg asking about some player resurections and perhaps coming off as demanding, because at the time he was likely shitting his pants in anxiety WORRYING about other players, or countless other examples that demand we either be inhuman machines or absurdly serene mountain monks, or maybe just part of the in-crowd on AIM... look, it's not that hard to understand that while things are getting better, there are some hot-button issues that were allowed to persist and everyone, quite frankly, is more than a little disturbed and skeptical with what they've seen, shit man, if you can feed me a bunch of contrived bullshit like you've been feeding, well, I don't really think there's any sense behind trying to make a point.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 6:39:38 GMT -5
i still didn't read eurynomos' crap about Coming Soon, but I did notice that it has about 1200 views
compare that to banme's rebuttal thread with 2000 views, or my dumb malken thread of his typical troll shitpost having over 1200 views.
Hey, fucking Eurynomos..... how about you start posting your stories over here so people will actually read that shit?
just saying, dude.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 6:57:50 GMT -5
You would think that a bunch of nerds would rather engross themselves with admin-written fiction related to the game, but what they really want, ladies and gentlemen, is blood. We need to post some fan fiction of me and Bitter having a cage match tag team against Eurynomos and malkeninthemiddle - if we did it in series form, it would surpass actually Arm fanfiction in staff announcements in mere days, i predict WELL YA KNOW SOMETHIN, MEAN GENE.....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 6:59:56 GMT -5
emote grabs a folding chair and rushes into the ring!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 8:01:50 GMT -5
Euronymos' "crap about Coming Soon" is just an warm-up story for the Sun Runners and then a post advertising a sponsored role. Since only staff can post in that thread, it wouldn't draw as much attention as a thread where anyone can post in. Compare banme's rebuttal thread of 2000 views with with the Prettiness Guilt thread on the GDB with over 11,360 views and Nyr's Player Retention and You thread with 14,429 posts, Nessalin's Food Aging discussion thread with 3826 posts, and in five different GDB categories I only saw one thread started by you Kronibas and that was back in 2014. You got over 3000 hits over the past year and a half but it looks like you were a one-shot wonder. Especially when you compare that with your pitiful 1200 views here on the shadowboard. qq harder nub
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