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Post by lechuck on Mar 31, 2023 11:04:06 GMT -5
That's true: there's definitely a difference between some random person on a forum and someone who has volunteered (TM!) to be in charge of a community that encompasses a hundred and... er, mehtastic can tell us how many are left. But yeah, Brokkr's communications skills are more akin to those of an urban taxi driver. Can't stand him, personally.
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Post by baobob on Mar 31, 2023 11:19:18 GMT -5
i have no idea what that means but i don’t think it addresses the fact that you deflected metek’s valid concerns. just fucking cop to it. there are shitty people amongst this community. someone posted a heil hitler jpeg a day or so ago and nobody bat an eye. baobab casually sucking his teeth over whether preemptively banning nazis is justified. this place is easily as fucked as the gdb because it’s composed of the exact same people and nobody wants to acknowledge it. I am okay being called one of the shittiest persons alive by you, but I am not okay with you putting words in my mouth. Please read my post and the one before it by me. Then come back and justify why anything I said equates to any of metek's accusations. You are usually pretty rational. This feels oddly personal, since no one is else's name was cited. Now I am interested why.
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Post by lechuck on Mar 31, 2023 11:25:59 GMT -5
Wait, he took my Jesse Pinkman "Heil Hitler Bitch" .jpeg as proof of this community's rampant Nazism? Oh my god. I like to think that I'm open-handed with the ol' insults, but that leaves me incapable of thinking up new ways in which to express how stupid terminal is. I'm afraid I'm at a loss. You fucking imbecile.
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Post by delerak on Mar 31, 2023 12:06:46 GMT -5
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Post by lechuck on Mar 31, 2023 12:11:28 GMT -5
Surely those are all incidental hits that stem from unrelated words containing the three-letter combination of F, A and G in sequence. Such as, uh.. Er... Well, how about... flag? No, wait, that's no good. Affadavits? No. Damn. It's almost as if you can search literally any forum and get similar results. How about that, terminal?
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Post by val on Mar 31, 2023 12:26:14 GMT -5
I have enough trouble with English because it's a second language for me and there's no accommodation for transgenderism in my native language. I think most of the world is this way. It's all bizarre to me and it would be bizarre to me for me to include it in my English. I don't know what your native language is, but if you're interested in how heavily gendered languages (German and French) are trying to accommodate this issue, this article might be interesting: medium.com/language-lab/how-to-use-gender-neutral-language-in-german-and-french-31d72712b0c0
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Post by ocotilloskewers on Mar 31, 2023 12:38:27 GMT -5
Trying to make an entire foreign linguistic system gender-neutral by utterly transforming and gutting this language to fit your narrative is possibly the most insensitively American imperialist thing I've heard today. But, also not pertinent to the thread.
I'm somewhat satisfied with what the staff have announced, because, really, I never expected anything perfect in the first place. These are socially-inept nerds we're talking about. The biggest issue for me at the moment is how the game simply feels dead. I logged in a day or two ago on peak and it was still below 20~. Even if they had perfect changes, and pleased literally everyone, I doubt very many people will come back considering how long this all took. They really lost out on an opportunity to good at the beginning, but instead, because of horrible staff red tape and bureaucracy, they dragged the process out until everyone jumped ship. Now the game is just dead and boring, and there are still some people that are dissatisfied.
Who knows if Arm will recover or "move forward". I doubt it, honestly.
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Post by mehtastic on Mar 31, 2023 12:52:13 GMT -5
Trying to make an entire foreign linguistic system gender-neutral by utterly transforming and gutting this language to fit your narrative is possibly the most insensitively American imperialist thing I've heard today. But, also not pertinent to the thread. At first I thought this was a pretty stupid conclusion to come to considering the article describes native speakers adopting minor changes themselves, not Americans changing other countries' entire languages, but then I remembered how illiterate the average Armageddon player is. Demand nothing now and you'll get nothing later. A lesson that Armageddon players repeatedly and painfully get to learn first hand. So you're at least right about that. As for the player count, the game lost 18% of the playerbase (roughly 25 players) in the last month. The last time there were 30 concurrent logins was Wednesday. Tomorrow is the weekend and there's also an RPT. The player count will definitely go up and down, but it will always remain low. Of course, as usual, Armers will use the very brief upswings as proof the game is getting better, and the incredibly long downturns as proof that more people should drop all their concerns and "just play the game". The game is dead and a lot of Armers are just a bit too dull to actually realize it just yet. It'll become more obvious the longer it goes on.
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Post by ocotilloskewers on Mar 31, 2023 13:04:34 GMT -5
The only native speakers adopting special keyboard symbols into their native language are the typical liberal artsy college types. I am from a European country myself, and I can tell you right now, there's no way anyone outside of these people will change the entire grammatical system of their language to fit mostly American ideals.
A similar thing was tried with the 'latinx' thing, which most hispanic people obviously rejected, because such a thing is so entirely foreign in their language and almost entirely instated by Americans, or American-ized hispanics.
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Post by mehtastic on Mar 31, 2023 13:28:38 GMT -5
Well this has certainly been a very informative thread. I think Armageddon's last remaining players are going to have a great time together.
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Post by Barsook on Mar 31, 2023 14:45:26 GMT -5
Surely those are all incidental hits that stem from unrelated words containing the three-letter combination of F, A and G in sequence. Such as, uh.. Er... Well, how about... flag? No, wait, that's no good. Affadavits? No. Damn. It's almost as if you can search literally any forum and get similar results. How about that, terminal ? They might of done exact words though. You can do that.
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Post by jstek on Mar 31, 2023 14:54:54 GMT -5
let's be real, arm is mondo fucked. lots of other people have pointed out why so i won't go over the exact details, but the idea that any of these changes will mean anything is pretty funny. arm players, i have a bridge to sell you. it's a game where the average age trends towards the forties, where several players are literal senior citizens, etc. in an already ossified and rapidly contracting genre. MUDs ain't gonna die any time soon (there'll just be fewer of them) but arm sure as shit will.
to arm staff: get real. shutting the game down is the right decision. it's the bataan death march of video games. everything past this point is just depressing.
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Post by jcarter on Mar 31, 2023 15:47:07 GMT -5
I remember you first banned me from here for trying to draw attention to it with a post that had a few other slurs in it but I suppose I hadn't participated in enough anti admin circlejerks to cash in for the Consequence Free Casual Slur Use. Anyway. Shaloonsh being gone is good and it took way too long, but you all of course continue to castigate the Armageddon staff for misogyny WITHOUT IRONY while you let hateful language run amok over here. you were banned because you signed up to act like a shithead and then decided to drop a racial slur. You were the only person dropping racial slurs. Yeah that's going to get you banned rather than just having the post deleted.
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Post by Prime Minister Sinister on Mar 31, 2023 16:13:30 GMT -5
I remember you first banned me from here for trying to draw attention to it with a post that had a few other slurs in it but I suppose I hadn't participated in enough anti admin circlejerks to cash in for the Consequence Free Casual Slur Use. Anyway. Shaloonsh being gone is good and it took way too long, but you all of course continue to castigate the Armageddon staff for misogyny WITHOUT IRONY while you let hateful language run amok over here. you were banned because you signed up to act like a shithead and then decided to drop a racial slur. You were the only person dropping racial slurs. Yeah that's going to get you banned rather than just having the post deleted. imagine not being able to call people out for being goobers because "it is our policy to not talk about bans"
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Post by metek on Mar 31, 2023 19:08:29 GMT -5
And also Mek, Fuck you for that whole shitshow on the forums. It caused my first long break, after I was already shaken from the deaf crap I got from staffers when I was freaked out about the lack of consent in a scene. It's funny that you want other people to have to deal with shit YOU want to dish out to THEM, but can't take it. Fuck right off.
Pardon everyone, been in the mind to say that to this guy for a bit, after all that.
I don't know what you're talking about.
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