vex
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Post by vex on Apr 10, 2020 16:47:56 GMT -5
New player, old player, returning player, it doesn't matter.
Everyone should have the same information, and opportunities, as everyone else. I do hope, you're able to find a niche you enjoy.
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Post by blinker on Apr 11, 2020 8:13:40 GMT -5
Thanks for the info about branching. Gonna try to keep track of when I branch to find what the caps for the various classes and share when I have a good amount of data.
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Post by sitbackandchillout on Apr 12, 2020 16:59:41 GMT -5
Actually, final question if anyone knows the answer.
Rangers used to get a bonus to combat while mounted. This still the case for any of Raider/Scout/Stalker? Edit 1: Or anyone else, for that matter.
Cheers in adv.
Edit 2: In the interest of not bumping an old thread I'll ask here:
Do we have a red on the stat bonuses on chargen for the new classes?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2020 21:05:34 GMT -5
Actually, final question if anyone knows the answer. Rangers used to get a bonus to combat while mounted. This still the case for any of Raider/Scout/Stalker? Edit 1: Or anyone else, for that matter. Cheers in adv. Edit 2: In the interest of not bumping an old thread I'll ask here: Do we have a red on the stat bonuses on chargen for the new classes?The bonus to combat comes from ride stat + wisdom. Everyone gets it.
Tier 1 combat classes look to not have any stat mods. I've had fighters with exceptional wisdom, which means at least no penalties.
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kannot
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Post by kannot on Apr 26, 2020 9:15:05 GMT -5
Warrior used to have a strength boost right? I assume atleast Fighter still has a boost to str?
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Post by sitbackandchillout on Apr 26, 2020 13:16:29 GMT -5
Warrior used to have a strength boost right? I assume atleast Fighter still has a boost to str? From what I guess, Heavy Combats get plus str, Mixed get plus agi
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 11:06:35 GMT -5
Either there are no stats boosts, or, classes now get stat boosts on based on your chosen stat order.
I've had two fighters with egood wis, and two with exceptional wis, all in the 24 year old age bracket, or equiv by race. You cannot get that if there is any penalty to wisdom. Do you think they gave a +2 to str with no corresponding penalties?
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Post by sitbackandchillout on Apr 27, 2020 14:55:30 GMT -5
Either there are no stats boosts, or, classes now get stat boosts on based on your chosen stat order.
I've had two fighters with egood wis, and two with exceptional wis, all in the 24 year old age bracket, or equiv by race. You cannot get that if there is any penalty to wisdom. Do you think they gave a +2 to str with no corresponding penalties?
Hmm, I think its possible. Would be nice of them, don't you think? I had someone message me that they had selected str agi as first two for a human, getting v good, exceptional. This on a mixed class. They weren't playing a super young PC so there's got to be some stat modifications there right?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 18:44:07 GMT -5
You need more data. What age, what race, what subguild?
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Post by vex on Apr 27, 2020 19:01:42 GMT -5
Stalker/Miscreant get an agi bonus, for sure. I rather suspect they get a str penalty as a trade off, as I almost always end up with poor str due to not giving it any priority on those classes.
Comparatively, my last "priority" stat on other classes, almost never end up that low.
But, I don't roll enough pcs in a year, for it to be more than anecdotal.
Tbh, I really wish these things were just included in the help file, in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2020 12:46:52 GMT -5
Are you rolling minimum age pcs, Vex?
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Post by lechuck on Apr 28, 2020 15:39:10 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the classes still have stat bonuses. You can still roll AI and that's not possible without a stat bonus. I've heard that no classes have penalties anymore, though. Warrior used to get -1 wisdom which, together with the age penalty, made it all but impossible to roll higher than average wisdom on a warrior unless you prioritized it first, and if you put it last like most players do, you were almost guaranteed a poor. That doesn't seem to happen anymore.
On the other hand, I've created three enforcers and got AI strength on four out of the six rolls/rerolls. It's a small sample size, but it kind of suggests that enforcers get +2 strength compared to the +1 strength and endurance that warriors got. I must have made like fifty warriors over the years and never seen AI, so getting it two times out of three with enforcers is a little wild if it was just a fluke. It sort of suits the class theme as well, although it is of course really overpowered if that's actually the case.
I would venture to guess that the stat bonuses for the new classes are something like this: Enforcer +2 strength Raider +1 strength, +1 agility Fighter +1 strength, +1 endurance Infiltrator +1 agility, maybe +1 wisdom? Scout probably the same as infiltrator Soldier, who knows... +1 strength, +1 wisdom? It's a shit class anyway Miscreant +2 agility Stalker +2 agility ...and then the light-merc probably get +1 wisdom and the heavy ones +2.
That's just an uneducated guess based on a few observations and filling in the gaps based on what makes sense, which is of course risky to do when it pertains to Arm. I don't think they did anything crazy like flexible bonuses based on your stat prios, that would be weird.
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Post by vex on Apr 28, 2020 15:57:42 GMT -5
Are you rolling minimum age pcs, Vex?
No, 21-24, or equiv if non-human.
AFAIK, there was a post on the GDB about it (Brokkr, I think?) commenting on it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2020 18:16:34 GMT -5
Sadly, Brokkr is either willing to be deliberately or accidentally wrong in his posts at times.
Its also possible fighter gets no mods, and miscreant does.
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Post by kannot on Jun 9, 2020 14:11:14 GMT -5
Enforcer +2 str is just absolutely fucking crazy.
I mean, legit, it's retarded I don't think they'd implement something that unbalanced. Then again if noone knows about it... And if it's on a class that they expect to only be used for more-niche city plots as opposed to wide-scale plots... Huh. Seems like my next char is going to be a blunt two handing enforcer dwarf in the 100% street age bracket.
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