vex
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Post by vex on Apr 4, 2020 17:51:57 GMT -5
Being female? If she's pandering to male staffers, ex-staffers, and players and their ego because she has a vagina? That speaks more about her than it does about anything else.
Tbh, I'd say a good 7 out of 10 "gamer girls", pretty much pander to lonely losers for favors, no matter what game you're playing.
It doesn't even turn a head, when some newbie female player, or some dude pretending to be female in most cases, are flirty right out the gate and overtly reap the benefits of loose behaviors. Staff and players of games, and especially a game like Arm, are easy marks for these kinds of tactics. I'd go so far as to say, it's the smart way to go about it if you don't care about pride/integrity, seeing how certain staff past AND current, get nervous or aggro, when a female player is assertive or confident, or directly rebuffs forward/flirty suggestions.
If you aren't barefoot and prepped for the kitchen, and regularly talk about your vagina like its an amusement park open to one and all, there's lots of players who will resent you or seem to feel threatened. You're the girls that picked on them in high school, or whatever, I guess. You see it CONSTANTLY in game, where Flirtman the Burly tries to get all chauvinistic and assertive over some generic bar fly female, gets rejected, and instantly takes it out on her like shes the cultural weirdo. The best ones, are the ones who keep trying, whilst repeatedly acting like you're not playing right, for not always being down for some D. Its ridiculous.
Equally ridiculous, are how many female pcs are constantly portrayed as submissive cocksockets in need of manly protections, when thematically, that kind of behavior SHOULD make them oddballs. But certain staff seem to love it, and the mostly male pbase is all about it, so it gets a pass, and even praised.
Its all fucked up, imo, and neither staff nor the player body, REALLY want a game where the sexes are equal. They just scribble it on the tin, so as not to set people off at a glance.
So, maybe she's a dumb slut keeping the usual company with the usual behaviors, or maybe, she's smart enough to know how to game a bunch of sex starved internet losers, to her maximum advantage. Or maybe, shes just playing the game, and someone decided to make up some shit about her and post it on the internets, because she beat them at the game they dream of being the winner of. Who knows, or cares, really. Are is rife, with stupid, retarded behaviors.
I mean, even if it ALL went down, EXACTLY like the thread has been supposing, it wouldn't even qualify as a scandal, at least by RP mud community standards, and certainly not by Arm standards. There are literal ex-staff posts here, about much, much worse than this, and the horridly toxic behavior top side and game generally. This is, like... the sunny side of Arm, rather than some shocking expose.
The only reason its even getting ANY kind of traction here, is because there is fuck all else, to post about.
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vex
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Post by vex on Apr 4, 2020 18:31:04 GMT -5
how come the people demanding to see proof never seem to ask staff for it?
Because staff close ranks and refuse to acknowledge any kind of wrong, even when you have them by the red hand, with literal, documented proof. There is no accountability, because who is going to hold them to it? Its their game, their rules, they make every decision and it is definitely not a democracy, despite what some people, seem to think. They have NO obligations to players, at all. None.
When you hold all of the cards, and control all of the access, with the ability to pass anonymous judgements and smears on any player, at any time, without them ever knowing, I'd imagine, it gets to be kind of trivial, to just hand wave off every little thing, and keep insisting everything is fine, or just intimidate people into not pressing the issue. Even the Pro Arm, Pro Staff, Head Up Ass & Ass In Sand crew know, there is absolutely no point, at any juncture, in asking or hoping, for any kind of honest, forthright response from staff, on any possible misbehaving of staff, or between staff and player.
In a way, I think, knowing they'll never get a real proof answer, makes them cry SHOW ME THE PROOF all the louder, because they KNOW, in absolute terms, the only people who could investigate/provide it, won't.
Partly because there are some grey area privacy issues, which I get and respect, and partly because there is so much casual misappropriation of time, resources and benefits, that nobody up there REALLY wants to look into anything, or report on anyone else, because of fear for some M.A.D retaliation shit. When everyones crooked, the best way to maintain the status quo and keep limping onward, is to go with the flow. I'd only take one staff, to say fuck all this, post screens of the staff forums here, or of their chats, and everyone, would be exposed. So nobody is really going to get all up in anyone elses business, no matter what noise players make or how obvious it is, because most everyone is at least a little dirty and has imaginary power to lose. They sure won't hand out fistfuls of ever coveted proof, especially over something, so petty.
We're all going with the flow, all the way up shit creek, and we all fucking know it. Might as well, just get yours and as much of it as possible, and enjoy it as long as you can, before we all go over the falls and spiral into the cesspool.
Global pandemic, and our serious concerns, are if ex-staff are hogging garbage sponsor roles staff literally have to bribe people with karma to play, for any length of time, or if some woman is trading tit pics of text benefits, or whatever.
Well, i post serious business about it, too, so I guess I'm not better, heh.
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Post by terminal on Apr 7, 2020 8:05:54 GMT -5
i can't believe anyone on this board full of spoilers and code discussion and a hearty air of "fuck the rules" honestly gives even a tiny fuck about some obscenely rich templar getting free plate because ooc bros.
who gives a shit?
ooc coordination and communication happens all day every day and there's not shit to do about it. there's more whining in this thread about titties = favors = not fair for me than there is about anything of any actual substance.
if you're all really so hard up for interesting topics you should go back to hand wringing about how the gdb bad and 2.gdb good.
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punished ppurg
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Post by punished ppurg on Apr 7, 2020 9:52:48 GMT -5
Rules for thee but not for me!
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mehtastic
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Post by mehtastic on Apr 7, 2020 13:22:51 GMT -5
People still playing Armageddon have been conditioned into accepting the low-level corruption that goes on in-game and out-of-game. So when they say "ooc coordination and communication happens all day every day", you can't blame them for understanding the fact that a large portion of players don't give a shit about the spirit of the game, and only care about winning by coordinating with their friends or trying to make friends with someone who is likely to ascend to staff. You can blame them, however, for accepting it and not trying to change the situation.
There are people in other RPIs and MUSHes who happily play those games the way they're meant to be played. There are people who try to cheat on those games, and they actually get rebuffed for trying to play unfairly. It's only games like Armageddon and Sindome where cheating has become the norm, and it's because they are set up to be hyper-competitive permadeath hack-and-slashes rather than collaborative storytelling games. The staff who have tried to change that on Arm have either been universally laughed off the team by players and other staff, or driven to insanity, or both. At some point, we have to acknowledge that Armageddon is not a saveable game.
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delerak
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Post by delerak on Apr 10, 2020 19:01:09 GMT -5
ooc coordination and communication happens all day every day and there's not shit to do about it. How about not giving sponsored templar roles, arguably the strongest thing in the game to people who speak oocly to other people? Now we know the player is also ex-staff which sweetens it even more. You're either so daft/naive that you don't understand the hypocrisy or you're just trolling. |
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Post by pinkerdlu on Apr 10, 2020 23:14:44 GMT -5
But I mean... even arguing that point is moot. We're talking about a desert sex bone sword PK simulator where THE STAFF have been proven time and time again to be the biggest cheats. They've cheated in the past, they're cheating right now, and guess what? They're facilitating the cheaters in the playerbase who they like, or who they've been buddies with for years. Nobody should be surprised at this point and to try and narrow in on a single player is laughable. But, I'm all for shitbags and their shitty behavior being put on display, so it is what it is. (And surprise, these shitty cheaters who are friends with staff, or who are former staff themselves, are going to get the powerful sponsored Templar roles! At least Malikith fucked off. Not sure who Allanakis have to deal with nowadays, but they're probably better and less scummy/gamey than that dud. Or not, I wouldn't be too surprised.) I would also like to point out, because why not, that the guy who started this thread only has 2 posts. Most of us don't give a shit about this stuff, we're just bored. OP is likely one of the many Armageddon players who reads this board for spoilers/twinkery, but shits on it in the Discord for his big boy karma points. But some text-based piece of ass got him worked up and he decided to stir things up.  |
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mehtastic
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Post by mehtastic on Apr 11, 2020 17:52:36 GMT -5
The usual process:
> Person gets pissy about something on Arm
> Wants to vaguebook about it on GDB, but can't risk taking a hit to their clout
> Makes account here to be a piss-baby about it
> Other people kind of commiserate, mostly don't care about the situation though because it happens all the time
> Pissy baby goes back to playing Arm
What should actually happen:
> Person gets pissy about something on Arm
> Realize that they're pissed off at a fundamental, systemic problem on Arm
> Person leaves Arm and stops wasting their time with shitty games with staff that abuse their players
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Post by psyxypher on Apr 11, 2020 18:08:22 GMT -5
My suggestion would be to play Apocalypse.
And Free Bird.
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mehtastic
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Post by mehtastic on Apr 12, 2020 6:05:10 GMT -5
My generic suggestion is to recognize communities for their toxic elements and leave them for better places. People keep saying all MUDs are toxic, but the real problem is that the toxic MUDs get the most attention because people love drama. There was a Reddit thread on r/MUD about how Sindome has a player who pretends to have cancer in order to get game benefits, and it had more comments than any thread I've ever seen there (100+ comments). Stop loving drama, and start appreciating communities with adults who just want to have fun playing an RPG online. Or build a community like that yourself. Or do TTRPGs. The moment you recognize Arm as just a collection of adult children who need to feel powerful in a world that otherwise leaves them powerless, is the moment you step back and find friends to form a tabletop group with. And COVID isn't an excuse if you can afford Tabletop Simulator.
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