Jeshin
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Post by Jeshin on Jan 16, 2020 15:40:52 GMT -5
Are we pretending VPNs don't exist and Qwerty can't just make a new account and get a few months out of pretending to be someone new?
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gdbjohn
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Post by gdbjohn on Jan 16, 2020 15:43:36 GMT -5
Are we pretending VPNs don't exist and Qwerty can't just make a new account and get a few months out of pretending to be someone new? Given qwerty cant help himself, wouldnt he make it pretty clear who he is relatively quickly? He has a distinct "I have connections to staff which I use to bolster my posts here" style of posting.
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Post by lechuck on Jan 16, 2020 15:46:32 GMT -5
We all know that Qwerty is not always arguing in good faith. But it's a discussion forum. As far as I know, you've never taken a hand in booting someone or curtailing open discussion. Don't do it now. We can handle Qwerty and his weird Socratic method in our discussions a LOT better than we can handle the SB turning into the GDB where dissent isn't tolerated and is immediately squashed by moderators. There's a rule against being intentionally disruptive and qwerty just admitted to breaking it. Sucks, because I really enjoyed the jousting session with all the windmills, but them's the breaks. RIP @qwerty and probably dvorak since his gag is dead now He should have been gone as soon as it emerged that he'd been PMing people fishing for their fucking accounts. When you think about it, it's absolutely nuts that no action was taken over that. Here's a guy who has tried to trick people into telling him their account names. Mull that over for a moment and tell me where else on the internet such a thing would be allowed? I realize there's no monetary gain involved, it's not like he's hacking people's accounts and selling them, but it's still egregious enough to warrant an automatic ban.
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delerak
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"When you want to fool the world, tell the truth." - Otto Von Bismarck
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Post by delerak on Jan 16, 2020 15:54:30 GMT -5
What does he do with the account names though? lol I gave him my account name. I could care less if people know my account name. I sent staff a request telling them who I was directly so there was no confusion anyway. They aren't banning people here. What is he going to do go tell them he got my account name via PMs by lying to me? Or maybe he will send them screens of our PMs where I "revealed IC info" by talking about how egregious PK has become on the game.
People take this shit way too seriously to go through those lengths to try and either curry favor with staff or.. I dunno, how bizarre. It really is just bizarre I don't understand why you'd PM people and lie about a ton of shit for no reason.
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Post by lechuck on Jan 16, 2020 16:03:42 GMT -5
Presumably he was connecting forum users to their game accounts. There was a screenshot of a PM where he claimed to be "looking into" some issue and asked for the poster's account name. Incidentally, this was right around the time of the IP-tracking pixel shit. The motive isn't the point. I don't care if he was just setting up a tier list of the prettiest account names for his own amusement. You don't go around anonymously trying to talk people into telling you their account names. It's one of those things you Just Don't Do. Don't compare it to you voluntarily telling people your account name, that's fucking stupid and you know it.
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Post by shakes on Jan 16, 2020 16:08:19 GMT -5
We're THIS close to becoming the GDB.
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punished ppurg
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Post by punished ppurg on Jan 16, 2020 16:08:53 GMT -5
DON'T DO IT GUYS! DON'T DO IT! IF YOU PUNISH QWERTY, YOU'LL BECOME JUST LIKE HIM! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Post by jcarter on Jan 16, 2020 16:10:00 GMT -5
all right. @qwerty has been confined to the mafia forum. if he really has a burning need to respond he can make his own thread there to do it. he is blocked from sending PMs. any attempt to circumvent this will just outright be his banning. this is more leniency than i've ever given any other poster here in over 7+ years, despite him admitting to openly just trying to derail and disrupt the forums as best as he can. for extra fun, i'm confident this is him too on reddit trying to muddy the waters further. www.reddit.com/user/ultimamachinaout of all the 7+ years of effort he's put in towards trying to 'balance' this board and discredit it, he's ended up doing significant damage to arm. staff, since you're probably reading this, you should probably figure out who it is because having an ex-staff turned former player calling former staff 'sluts' on reddit and trying to troll posters offsite isn't a good look.
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delerak
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"When you want to fool the world, tell the truth." - Otto Von Bismarck
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Post by delerak on Jan 16, 2020 16:18:02 GMT -5
I am disappointed in Qwerty. I didn't know about the pixel tracking or any of that nonsense. I guess I don't keep as up to date as I should on these forums. Seriously @qwerty
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Post by shakes on Jan 16, 2020 16:26:37 GMT -5
If the pixel tracking was working, why would they have a plant on the forum asking for people's account names?
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grumble
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toxic shithead
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Post by grumble on Jan 16, 2020 16:27:43 GMT -5
Because the IP address alone is not a reliable way to identify someone, can get false positives?
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Post by shakes on Jan 16, 2020 16:37:12 GMT -5
Because the IP address alone is not a reliable way to identify someone, can get false positives? Like poor fucking Geezer who got banned for no reason.
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Post by lechuck on Jan 16, 2020 16:37:54 GMT -5
I am disappointed in Qwerty. I didn't know about the pixel tracking or any of that nonsense. I guess I don't keep as up to date as I should on these forums. I'm not saying that was him, we still don't really know the scope of that stunt; but a few years ago, the profile shik emerged and started posting short, inconspicuous replies to threads, the kinds of replies that don't evoke any kind of response or anything. Just "Awesome" and "LOL" and such. They were also PMing people with similarly benign stuff like "I agreed with your post." It was later discovered that an IP-tracking pixel was embedded in their signature. Nergal has recently mentioned that Seidhr and Adhira had set up some IP-tracking scheme with spreadsheets and everything, so it was likely part of that, but we can't know if shik was their plant or someone else inspired to try the same thing here. The Qwerty account was registered very shortly after this pixel thing was discovered. There was a big thread about it on TMS or TMC or one of those sites. I recall that a bunch of people posted saying that it was completely absurd to even insinuate that staff could have been behind such a thing, and blasting insults at anyone who pointed out that they've had a history of trying to identify this forum's users and stopping them from posting here. Turns out it was some of the game's most senior admins behind it lmao. And I suspect that Qwerty's presence here is, or at least started as, a similar kind of scheme to sniff out shadowboarders and fuck around with this community. Anyone who thinks he's here in good faith is an idiot.
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Post by jcarter on Jan 16, 2020 16:43:34 GMT -5
If the pixel tracking was working, why would they have a plant on the forum asking for people's account names? he was doing it after we found out about the tracking pixel and i broke it by using a wordfilter. I am disappointed in Qwerty. I didn't know about the pixel tracking or any of that nonsense. I guess I don't keep as up to date as I should on these forums. I'm not saying that was him, we still don't really know the scope of that stunt; but a few years ago, the profile shik emerged and started posting short, inconspicuous replies to threads, the kinds of replies that don't evoke any kind of response or anything. Just "Awesome" and "LOL" and such. They were also PMing people with similarly beningn stuff like "I agreed with your post." It was later discovered that an IP-tracking pixel was embedded in their signature. Nergal has recently mentioned that Seidhr had set up some IP-tracking thing, so it was likely part of that, but we can't know if it shik was Seidhr's plant or someone else inspired to try the same thing here. The Qwerty account was registered very shortly after this pixel thing was discovered. There was a big thread about it on TMS or TMC or one of those sites. I recall that a bunch of people posted saying that it was completely absurd to even insinuate that staff could have been behind such a thing, and blasting insults at anyone who pointed out that they've had a history of trying to identify this forum's users and stopping them from posting here. Turns out it was a fucking senior admin behind it lmao. And I suspect that Qwerty's presence here is, or at least started as, a similar kind of scheme to sniff out shadowboarders and fuck around with this community. Anyone who thinks he's here in good faith is an idiot. shik was doing it, and so was another account that PMed mehtastic. It was in the account that PMed him that it was figured out what was going on because it was found in a quote. it's ridiculous to suggest it was anyone other than staff, especially given nergal confessing to it. @qwerty has posted here since 2013 as armqwerty then as armqwerty2, which he deleted in protest over something or another, before coming back again.
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mehtastic
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Post by mehtastic on Jan 16, 2020 16:54:10 GMT -5
The account that PMed me was angrygortok, for the record.
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