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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2019 17:35:22 GMT -5
Rather than infer from other forums, if Arm set an expectation for raider behavior, what would you prefer be in that expectation?
Is killing pcs okay? In low volume, or high? Is it acceptable to close a game region to resource use or passage? Is it okay to use halfgiants, desert elves, or casters in raiding? If so, is it okay to use "no save" effects in raiding? Should anyone be exempt? (obvious news, karma pcs, sponsored roles, staff pcs)
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Post by jkarr on Jul 7, 2019 19:18:15 GMT -5
Rather than infer from other forums, if Arm set an expectation for raider behavior, what would you prefer be in that expectation? Is killing pcs okay? r u rping it r u rping it Is it acceptable to close a game region to resource use or passage? r u rping it Is it okay to use halfgiants, desert elves, or casters in raiding? r u rping it If so, is it okay to use "no save" effects in raiding? r u rping it if ur not rping it |
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Post by shakes on Jul 7, 2019 21:33:32 GMT -5
I don't like policies.
My own personal comfort level was, "Am I making it fun for the other guy?"
No, losing your stuff is not going to be fun, of course, but let me give him the hope of some day rising to the point of taking revenge on that foul raider. I've shot arrows at people and then stopped and been thinking, "C'mon, dummy. Don't just stand there. Run so you get to the gates!" I didn't want to kill them. I wanted them to have a good story of "a raider shot me with an arrow".
Other times I've rolled up someone who clearly didn't have squat or any chance of resisting me, gruffly demanded their "water or your life", took a sip and then threw down their waterskin and rode off.
Occasionally you do run into the people who are like, "No, I'm not giving you anything. Fuck off." And you ask for consent to maim and they say no consent. And then you're just stuck. Well, guess they rolled shitty stats and this is suicide-by-pc. Fine. Do it and move on.
My desire to steal and hurt is tempered by the age of the other player. If he's pretty strong and been around a long time, I will try harder against them than I will against some newbie whose story is just beginning.
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Post by kannot on Jul 8, 2019 13:42:31 GMT -5
That's pretty metagamey shakes, I'm not sure how you enjoy the game.
Do most people do this? I understand making considerations of viability and overall fun for everyone is paramount before you enter the gameworld, but once that OOC set up is done, I can't help but get tremendously bored if I let any OOC considerations creep in. It's always "does it make sense for my char to do this?".
If I've decided to raid, that usually means the unfortunate demise of plenty of newbies, luckily my raiders all die incompetent deaths.
Of course, I hope noone else plays this way, it's more fun for folks like me with that, UNLESS their IC considerations are jarringly inappropriate and evident (even if they have "good" OOC intentions).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 17:43:00 GMT -5
Rather than infer from other forums, if Arm set an expectation for raider behavior, what would you prefer be in that expectation? Is killing pcs okay? r u rping it r u rping it Is it acceptable to close a game region to resource use or passage? r u rping it Is it okay to use halfgiants, desert elves, or casters in raiding? r u rping it If so, is it okay to use "no save" effects in raiding? r u rping it if ur not rping it I dont buy this. "just rp it" is a socializer or griefer dodge. We can all write a background that would support atrocity or villainy. The only pc that might have trouble is an half giant who isnt being reinforced by seeing that behavior in someone else. |
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Post by jkarr on Jul 8, 2019 21:54:54 GMT -5
I dont buy this. "just rp it" is a socializer or griefer dodge. dodge what ur expected to rp so as long as u rp it ur free to do whatever the hell u want We can all write a background that would support atrocity or villainy. as long as it fits the theme and staff considers it realistic it doesnt matter what it supports u can write whatever background u want The only pc that might have trouble is an half giant who isnt being reinforced by seeing that behavior in someone else. trouble with what ur all over the place be more clear abt what u mean |
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Post by shakes on Jul 8, 2019 22:35:45 GMT -5
That's pretty metagamey shakes, I'm not sure how you enjoy the game. Do most people do this? I understand making considerations of viability and overall fun for everyone is paramount before you enter the gameworld, but once that OOC set up is done, I can't help but get tremendously bored if I let any OOC considerations creep in. It's always "does it make sense for my char to do this?". If I've decided to raid, that usually means the unfortunate demise of plenty of newbies, luckily my raiders all die incompetent deaths. Of course, I hope noone else plays this way, it's more fun for folks like me with that, UNLESS their IC considerations are jarringly inappropriate and evident (even if they have "good" OOC intentions). I don't know. I consider it enjoyable. I try to follow the balance of "does it make sense for my character" but like others have said, a villain could technically justify any level of wanton murder. And the other guy I "let go" doesn't know that I let him go, particularly. They may just think they got lucky, or that I'm not competent. I LOVE killing someone whose power level (either social or skill) is equal to or greater than my own. I love killing someone who I've let know it's coming. (You have crossed me for the last time. I will be coming for you.) I do not like just offing someone who doesn't have any chance against me. That's not fun when it happens to me, and I don't like to do it to other people. |
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Post by jkarr on Jul 8, 2019 22:50:35 GMT -5
yeah u dont bother with shiks until they give u a good reason to waste ur time oneshotting them
but go ahead and #bethegoodreason hero lolol
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Post by shakes on Jul 8, 2019 23:05:34 GMT -5
Heh. I'm not saying it's the best way to play. You do you.  I just like a bigger, more involved story. I don't want to submit a pk report that simply says, "I liked his pants." |
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Post by jkarr on Jul 9, 2019 2:03:48 GMT -5
Heh. I'm not saying it's the best way to play. You do you. I just like a bigger, more involved story. I don't want to submit a pk report that simply says, "I liked his pants." lol no i was saying no one bothers fucking with shiks until the shiks make them do it (lol when tho) just like good raiders arent roused to end weak looking pcs until they give them a reason in other words anyone crossing the north road more than once is more than equipped to get ur pt and if they still dont then aint nobody got time for that the hero bit was challenging pc shiks that thought itd still be a good idea to give raiders a reason to mantis them |
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Post by mehtastic on Jul 9, 2019 12:29:12 GMT -5
I don't think there should be any expectations for raider RP in Armageddon, chiefly because there are no equally-enforced expectations for any other type of RP. The game is basically a free-for-all. A better game that is actually designed for roleplay, as opposed to a game built on a H&S system by H&S fans, might be able to implement raider roleplay expectations simply because the players would already be used to expectations on some level. See basically any TTRPG or MUSH.
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