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Post by Prime Minister Sinister on Mar 2, 2023 15:29:19 GMT -5
If by "a few posts" you mean "just Val's post", then sure "a few posts" were moderated. I don't know why the staff lie about easily verifiable stuff even when they are backed into a corner like this. i don't get it just stop they can actually just stop stifling ideas and discussion, right now, for free, and with basically zero effort-- especially with as incensed as the community is right now, and it would do a lot to help smooth things over but for reasons far beyond my understanding, they just can't do it it's getting downright stupid at this point i don't want to insult anybody, but honestly brain no work pants on head mental deficiency get help please this is seriously not a good look, getting piled on top of the "not good look" mountain that's formed over the years
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Post by joe on Mar 2, 2023 15:29:31 GMT -5
just watched valeri(a)/AllanakiLackey's post get moved on the grounds of "this player said they are never coming back", despite the post itself mentioning that returning sometime in the future is definitely a possibility it is actually frustrating watching them do shit like that it's not like they're unaware that they're being watched closely it's like watching someone spamming peek and steal and failing repeatedly without stealth, and just not acknowledging that they've been caught several times over i don't get it just stop Yes they said they might come back. Especially if they said that and they were responded to in any way reasonable they probably would play again after cooling down and feeling heard. ...but rules are more important. ...rules were laid out in the op. Rules are more important than intelligent emotional consideration...authoritarian and disgusting. I've introduced people to this game and said "its a great game but is run by a bunch of fascist nerds with an in crowd" and that holds true. I would be optimistic for new staff but for who is selecting them and how they are acting in the face of outrage.
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Post by mehtastic on Mar 2, 2023 15:34:03 GMT -5
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Post by nottriste on Mar 2, 2023 15:40:10 GMT -5
If by "a few posts" you mean "just Val's post", then sure "a few posts" were moderated. I don't know why the staff lie about easily verifiable stuff even when they are backed into a corner like this. I've been busy and not keeping close track, but not taking feedback from ex-Players is ridiculous, do they not want players back? If they handled this controversy better, folks could conceivably still want to play (eg if we held staff EVEN MORE accountable than what was demonstrated by one resignation, people might not have quit). One of the best points raised by people still playing is that players really need to just fucking get along. It's like no Armageddon player, former or current, learned how to fucking share their toys as a kid. It's evident even here with the in fighting between "new ex-Players" and "old ex-Players." What the hell is Armageddon, Narcissistic Nerds Anonymous? I think the fact that staff can't even explain why I've been banned is an indication of this. I am convinced the only reason I've been banned is that I've hurt the butts of staff pets like mansa (one of my only PKs was one of mansa's pettiest pet characters, you are welcome, bro). But guess what, staff pets have hurt a lot of our butts, too. Are we really never going to be able to resolve our differences and lubricate our relations so that less butts are hurt? Staff banning/silencing classy, polite players like Val shows that the division and butthurt will only continue, and that staff are a part of this problem.
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Post by poorimpulsecontrol on Mar 2, 2023 15:41:09 GMT -5
Little derail from righteous outrage...
Prime Minister's pfp is Gafgarion. Respect.
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Post by Prime Minister Sinister on Mar 2, 2023 15:41:48 GMT -5
good going "I don’t see myself wanting to return in the near future, but I also didn’t leave the game out of bitterness and can imagine a world in which it would be an enjoyable place for me to play again. So I hope that my suggestions will be taken in that spirit.""So I hope that my suggestions will be taken in that spirit"got our answer to how staff are viewing this, if weren't obvious enough to the surprise of nobody
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Post by maziel on Mar 2, 2023 15:43:17 GMT -5
Guys should join us in Apocalypse. It is opening up this Friday. More the merrier.
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Post by migrant on Mar 2, 2023 15:48:52 GMT -5
Thanks for saving that mehtastic. Val's post was so polite and constructive too. It's just sad how badly Armageddon staff are missing out on being able to just like... easily. Do the right thing.
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Post by maziel on Mar 2, 2023 15:52:51 GMT -5
Thanks for saving that mehtastic . Val's post was so polite and constructive too. It's just sad how badly Armageddon staff are missing out on being able to just like... easily. Do the right thing. I'm pretty sure if I ctrl + f 'mod' on that thread it will pop up a number of times. Asking for feedback is easier than listening to feedback.
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Post by mehtastic on Mar 2, 2023 16:16:33 GMT -5
Val's post is back. Supposedly its removal was a mistake. I guess Katima being unable to count was also a mistake. Crazy stuff.
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Post by punished ppurg on Mar 2, 2023 16:24:16 GMT -5
IMMEDIATE WALKBACK ON MODERATION, what a sight to see. Of course it's not like one of us complete reprobates would be given the same second thought. It wasn't a mistake. It was Katima being a tonedeaf ignorant cog more interested in damage control than actual ethical discussion. Only immediate, vocal pushback from very important voices in the community, caused them to walk back. Get these self-sabotaging stooges out of the way. It's becoming more and more disappointing every time it happens.
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Post by maziel on Mar 2, 2023 16:28:25 GMT -5
Well, it's an improvement compared to not fixing their mistake, right?
I'm going to double down on Storytellers/whoever not being mods. They have too many horses in too many races and can lose sight of things. Different perspective than someone just trying to facilitate discussion.
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Post by ocotilloskewers on Mar 2, 2023 16:42:56 GMT -5
Lots of talk about the 'end of Arm' on the Discord and other avenues of discussion. Wonder if that's true, or will it be another 10-20+ years of cruising on 20-30 population of die-hard boomers? No offence to the boomers here, of course.
Personally, I want to see Arm come out of this better. I'd actually play the damn game again. But it seems that staff are just interested in heavy-handed damage control with harsh moderation and absolutely no care for apologizing or trying to rectify their mistakes.
I suppose if ApocalypseMUD gets off the ground I'll play that.
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Post by poorimpulsecontrol on Mar 2, 2023 16:50:43 GMT -5
Lots of talk about the 'end of Arm' on the Discord and other avenues of discussion. Wonder if that's true, or will it be another 10-20+ years of cruising on 20-30 population of die-hard boomers? No offence to the boomers here, of course. Personally, I want to see Arm come out of this better. I'd actually play the damn game again. But it seems that staff are just interested in heavy-handed damage control with harsh moderation and absolutely no care for apologizing or trying to rectify their mistakes. I suppose if ApocalypseMUD gets off the ground I'll play that. I would be genuinely happy if this deluge of shit washed the community clean and made for a pleasant paalstime again.
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Post by mehtastic on Mar 2, 2023 16:51:56 GMT -5
Based on the unique login count of last week vs. so far this week, it looks like by the end of the week the game's going to come up 10-15 players short. Most people that are ever going to log in on the week usually log in by Thursday, there are very few players that only play on the weekend.
It's pretty significant when the game loses the same amount of players in a week that the game normally loses on average over the course of a year.
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